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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    Big difference in price though. BT costs me an extra fiver a month, Sky would cost me an extra £35. I suppose that's a reflection on the number of games that each channel shows but as I'm only interested in Albion games, I just buy the odd Now pass
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    And yet Americans think the opposite. They definitely think that 'soccer' would be improved by Americanisation . But, as you say, the facts don't seem to bear this out
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    I was looking at a few US Twitter feeds last night and there were quite a few comments on how the ESL is a chance to make "soccer more exciting". Banning 0-0 draws was high on the list; making goals bigger and the abolition of offsides were also mentioned. There were also suggestions for more...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    Interesting article in the FT this morning saying that the JP Morgan money is not a bonus but a loan - the clubs will be paying off the debt for 23 years at £250m every year. That makes it even more baffling that the clubs are happy to leave the PL
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    I'm not sure they'd have the grounds to sue UEFA. I'm sure there's nothing in the contract that they have to have certain teams in the competition every year. As long as UEFA runs the CL and Europa every season, how have they broken a contract?
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    So would I but I'm not holding my breath. As I said, it's one thing to condemn, it's another to do something about it. But if he does, I'll applaud him for it
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    I think that's true enough in normal circumstances but in this case we're looking for politicians to support football authorities not interfere in their operations
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    So what? Words mean nothing - particularly from a bare-faced liar
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    This should be a great thing for Labour to campaign against. It's one thing presiding over the break-up of the United Kingdom but if the Tories are seen to be presiding over the break-up for the football league structure in England, that's something for opposition parties to really get their...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    Yes, the remaining PL clubs will get less money but they'll then cut players' salaries too. I also suspect that Sky et al would have to reduce their subscriptions. They'll certainly still be takers for the PL even without the Six. Everton, Leicester, Villa, Newcastle and Leeds have plenty of...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    But they've been told that if they go ahead with this they'll be chucked out of the PL. So, in effect, they are walking away from it
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    Not per club. I don't understand this bit. That works out at just over £200m per club but clubs get this from PL and CL/Europa leagues now - Liverpool made £500m in profit last year, how does the Super League guarantee more revenue. Of course, this may not include TV money - which will be a...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    I've been thinking about this too. Do players' contracts make reference about them being free to play for their national sides? Do they make reference to them playing in the PL? If they do make these references then surely the contracts are null and void and players can walk away from them, if...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    You're misremembering here. There was no talk of sanctions or banning players from one-day cricket - the early tournaments were highly successful with full support of the relevant authorities. What you're probably thinking of is Kerry Packer's World Series. This did lead to bans and threats of...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    I was thinking of Chinese/Russian money investing in it - there are plenty of Chinese/Russian owned teams in Europe who'd be interested. And there are going to be big teams left out of the ESL. At least one of the Big Six in England (possibly two), Rangers and Celtic. Some big teams in Spain and...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    Is the CL definitely going? What I've read about this is that this is a FIFA initiative and UEFA is not involved, and in fact are very much against it. I've read that the big clubs want to play in the European Super League instead of the CL but I've not read anything about UEFA scrapping it...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    I'm not convinced about this. Everton's Chinese owners have pumped a lot of money into the club, a lot of money. Let's suppose they pump in even more and win the PL next season. I can't see the owners, having made that investment, will happily shrug their shoulders and kiss goodbye to European...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    would we? I imagine most people on here are Albion supporters and don't support another team. I know there are some who do, but very few. Or Arsenal? I hadn't twigged there'd be just five EPL teams, I saw that they were talking to six. The sixth will be very unhappy. What happens if...
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    I thought of six English teams, 4 Spanish 4 italian 2 German and 2 French but we shall see
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    [Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

    Although it's envisaged that the European league would be played in tandem with the PL, could the other 14 clubs say that if you join the European league, you can't play in the PL too? Presumably, they'd have two-thirds majority to do that but would that be ultra vires action
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