[Albion] Losing Macalister & Caicedo

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Hiheidi

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The Athletic said it's not a typical release clause...
 

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The Fits

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Exactly. There is an exit clause of some kind.
Why do you think we aren't hearing 'Liverpool have had a bid turned down' and why do you think we wouldn't be looking to sell him to the highest bidder or not at all?
 
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Johnny RoastBeef

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The Athletic article has presumably come from Naylor so I’d guess it’s true. £55-£60m would have felt like a lot pre WC when he signed it…
It was from a piece written by David Ornstein, who also wrote a similar piece about Caicedo. Which Caicedo's agent later refuted.
 






Johnny RoastBeef

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Johnny RoastBeef

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But the article from Ornstein only mentions Mac Allister. I think people just assumed.



You're right. It was just a badly worded article that was open to misinterpretation.
 




Sarisbury Seagull

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Tony doesn't do release clauses. That's on record. He is a billionaire who believes that release clauses give away control - and he wants to totally have that control.

Yes, someone might make things up about a release clause on twitter.

But it is almost certain that there won't be one.
We also don’t sign players in January or loan in players either apparently.

Oh…..
 




Hugo Rune

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Chelsea have this habit of over paying. If Caicedo goes there, we’ll be well compensated.

However, the genius move by the club is to go after a Chelsea player, publicly and first. It makes it very difficult for Chelsea to enquire about Caicedo when we can now counter every time with this: ‘let’s get Colwill sorted first and then we’ll discuss Moises’.
 




The Fits

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Caicedo can go to Chelsea but it will need to be for at least £80million plus Colwill.
Given it looks like Mac is going slightly on the cheap absolutely no need to sell Moises for anything other than top dollar.
 


The Fits

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Chelsea have this habit of over paying. If Caicedo goes there, we’ll be well compensated.

However, the genius move by the club is to go after a Chelsea player, publicly and first. It makes it very difficult for Chelsea to enquire about Caicedo when we can now counter every time with this: ‘let’s get Colwill sorted first and then we’ll discuss Moises’.
Does feel like this was part of the tactic.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Exactly. There is an exit clause of some kind.
Why do you think we aren't hearing 'Liverpool have had a bid turned down' and why do you think we wouldn't be looking to sell him to the highest bidder or not at all?
Clause or not, I'm pretty sure that we want to sell Mac Allister this summer so we're not going to be hearing 'not for sale' quotes regardless
 




Mancgull

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Chelsea seem to have pulled out of their interest in Manuel Ugarte. Unfortunately I think this may mean that Moises becomes a greater priority for them.
Chelsea have the money to progress the deal but the question mark would be whether they are what Moises wants.
 


Husty

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Tony doesn't do release clauses. That's on record. He is a billionaire who believes that release clauses give away control - and he wants to totally have that control.

Yes, someone might make things up about a release clause on twitter.

But it is almost certain that there won't be one.

Really? So you think MacAlister's dad (who will be one feeding FR) knows less about his sons contract than some random blokes on North Stand Chat? Interesting position to take.
 


Reddleman

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Chelsea seem to have pulled out of their interest in Manuel Ugarte. Unfortunately I think this may mean that Moises becomes a greater priority for them.
Chelsea have the money to progress the deal but the question mark would be whether they are what Moises wants.
I think that helps our bargaining position as they are going to become more desperate. Makes a position of no Colwill no conversation more impactful.
 


Bozza

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I think that helps our bargaining position as they are going to become more desperate. Makes a position of no Colwill no conversation more impactful.
Exactly.

Chelsea wanting Caicedo is the best option for me, but I start from a position of believing he will depart this summer regardless. So, with that in mind, being sought after by a club who have a player we want can only help us get that player.
 




The Pilsbury Echo

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Chelsea seem to have pulled out of their interest in Manuel Ugarte. Unfortunately I think this may mean that Moises becomes a greater priority for them.
Chelsea have the money to progress the deal but the question mark would be whether they are what Moises wants.
Exactly this!
No Euro football for Moises at Chelsea...BUT...without being to pedantic was it not Moises himself that said he had to think of his family back home in Ecudaor?... Chavs will pay bigger price and bigger wages. Be interesting to see his take on it now. He could get us and his family a better deal or does he really want to play for Arsenal?
 
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Cheeky Monkey

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Exactly.

Chelsea wanting Caicedo is the best option for me, but I start from a position of believing he will depart this summer regardless. So, with that in mind, being sought after by a club who have a player we want can only help us get that player.
Also depends on what Colwill wants surely?
 


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