[Football] If Palace can't play in the Europa League

[The Grockle]

Would assume the Premier League would like to have this wrapped up ASAP with fixtures due to be released in full on the 18th June? Doesn't leave much time for Palace's fixtures to be changed dependent on the outcome of this.

Would be slightly amusing if their fixtures are moved to accommodate European games that don't happen.

 

[Washie]

Would assume the Premier League would like to have this wrapped up ASAP with fixtures due to be released in full on the 18th June? Doesn't leave much time for Palace's fixtures to be changed dependent on the outcome of this.

As will Warner and SKY. Especially considering how much Warner paid for the TV rights to Uefa competitions. They need to know for advertising purposes.

 

[Bozza]

Rules are rules - we all know what they are - it's not like these rules came into being in the last few weeks or something.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Is there a livestream of the meeting?

(Asking for a friend... I'm not really that bothered whether Palace might lose their first ever chance of Europe and this result in us getting to go ourselves. I agree with the people saying that, whilst they understand the so-called "rivalry", on this occasion they genuinely wish Palace and their fans all the best.)

I don’t think it is their first ever chance at Europe. I think they qualified before after finishing 3rd but weren’t allowed to play for some reason. Lightening striking twice this time perhaps

 

[pigmanovich]

Rules are rules - we all know what they are

Doesn’t roll off the tongue as a chant but we can give it a go the next time we play them.

 

[Mellotron]

Its only been twice that we were in administration.

I like that you're putting this as a positive.

Only 3 clubs in the HISTORY OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL have had more administrations than you - Portsmouth, Darlington (RIP) and Bradford.

 

[US Seagull]

I don’t think it is their first ever chance at Europe. I think they qualified before after finishing 3rd but weren’t allowed to play for some reason. Lightening striking twice this time perhaps

As I understand it, they didn't qualify in third. It's just that third didn't get anything since the English FA was unranked in UEFA coefficients due to the European ban only having just be lifted. As a result, England only got one spot in the UEFA Cup, which went to Liverpool, who finished second.

So they never qualified. It just they would have qualified if UEFA had decided to use the same coefficients for the English FA as they did before the ban.

 

[Bozza]

When they held up that banner that said...

Brighton, when will you learn!
There are teacher and pupils

...do you think it was a cry for help?

Maybe if they'd been more direct and written...

Brighton, we need to learn!
Can you teach us how to effectively handle multi-club ownership concerns so we don't risk being expelled from European competition

...all of this unsavoury business could have been avoided.

I concede they'd have needed a bigger bedsheet.

 

[carlzeiss]

When they held up that banner that said...

Brighton, when will you learn!
There are teacher and pupils

...do you think it was a cry for help?

Maybe if they'd been more direct and written...

Brighton, we need to learn!
Can you teach us how to effectively handle multi-club ownership concerns so we don't risk being expelled from European competition

...all of this unsavoury business could have been avoided.

I concede they'd have needed a bigger bedsheet.

Also too many long words

 

[The Optimist]

If it was that simple CPFC 2010 wouldn't be in Switzerland

Yes, but it’s also not as clear cut as the text you quoted.

 

[Clive Walker]

I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about.



The rules are pretty clear and they have been broken.



Its quite clear really.

 

[Flounce]

Even if we didn’t get their place it would still be hilarious if they were chucked out

 

[Moshe Gariani]

I don’t think it is their first ever chance at Europe. I think they qualified before after finishing 3rd but weren’t allowed to play for some reason. Lightening striking twice this time perhaps

This has been covered. When they finished 3rd that wasn't a European qualification placing. Surprising now, but in that season it was simply close but no cigar.

 

[HeaviestTed]

This is all true but irrelevant if palace get thrown out due to breaking the rules. Or maybe they shouldn't face consequences, and there is a precedent for that in that they should have been demoted the last of their many times that they've gone into administration?

If they are punished for not following the rules of the competition then it's completely their own fault and natural justice dictates that the next club in line should take their place.

If it was because they cheated in the fa cup final then fine but if it happens it is because of boardroom shenanigans- a stupid way to be out.

It’s just an opinion guys, it isn’t that deep

 

[pb21]

As I understand it, they didn't qualify in third. It's just that third didn't get anything since the English FA was unranked in UEFA coefficients due to the European ban only having just be lifted. As a result, England only got one spot in the UEFA Cup, which went to Liverpool, who finished second.

So they never qualified. It just they would have qualified if UEFA had decided to use the same coefficients for the English FA as they did before the ban.

They also haven't qualified for the Europa League yet...

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

This has been covered. When they finished 3rd that wasn't a European qualification placing. Surprising now, but in that season it was simply close but no cigar.

Yes and the fans of the oldest football club in the world trot that misinformation out all the time.

 

[sparkie]

If it is determined that Palace have FLOUTED the multiclub ownership rules then they will just have to chalk it up to experience and move on.

 

[Clive Walker]

Probably been mentioned on here before but won’t the crazy Greek at forest feel his team should get the Europa spot given he placed his shares in Olympiakos in a holding fund to avoid any issues.

If I were him I’d be livid if palace can ignore the policy and get away with it.

 

[Brian Munich]

My sober view on this, having been taking the piss a bit.

I'd genuinely feel a little bit bad for Palace's fans if they lost their place. I'd think it was funny, and funnier still if we qualified as a result, but they did achieve their place fair-and-square after all. As much as I dislike Palace, I don't think their fans deserve that outcome (the owners do, for not taking the opportunity to sort this out ahead of time, but that's not the fans' fault).

If (e.g.) Chelsea or Man City got kicked out of Europe over a financial rule, I wouldn't have any sympathy for their fans at all. But let's face it, nobody supports Palace for the glory. Most of them have been dreaming of this all their lives and at the end of the day, they're just football fans like the rest of us.

But having said all that, I will still point and laugh if it comes to pass (come on, I'm only human).

A fair-and-square win??

 

[pb21]

Probably been mentioned on here before but won’t the crazy Greek at forest feel his team should get the Europa spot given he placed his shares in Olympiakos in a holding fund to avoid any issues.

If I were him I’d be livid if palace can ignore the policy and get away with it.

This is the critical thing for me.

Assuming they have broken the rules (a very fair and reasonable assumption), then unless someone else is complaining about it, as they have lost out, then I would expect UEFA to allow the rules to be broken in this instance.

Hopefully the nice friendly Forest Chairman wants to put his case forward in a way that only he can...