[Football] If Palace can't play in the Europa League

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

So it looks like rules are rules, and we should be kicked out of Europe. UEFA owe us nothing and have already shafted us back in 1991 when we finished 3rd, to qualify for Europe, but then UEFA reduced Liverpools ban and let them in instead.

You never qualified for Europe when you finished 3rd. It was announced well before the season ended that Liverpool had been successful in their appeal to have their ban lifted. Therefore you knew third wasn’t good enough to qualify for Europe.

 

[GeorgeKane5]

So it looks like rules are rules, and we should be kicked out of Europe. UEFA owe us nothing and have already shafted us back in 1991 when we finished 3rd, to qualify for Europe, but then UEFA reduced Liverpools ban and let them in instead. I guess it could / should happen again if UEFA feel that having Brighton in Europe will add to the quality of their competitions, and Palace can be made scapegoats. After all, you finished 4 places higher than us, had horrific injuries, and had a much harder cup draw. It all sounds perfectly fair to me. Brighton will get their reward for finishing higher in the league. I also saw that we should probably have the FA Cup taken off us as we cheated. Clearly that should go to Brighton too, as they have only ever played the game the right way, in a fantastic stadium built with the help of the lifelong supporter and Chairman Mr Bloom.
Bitter? Me? Not a bit... Enjoy the conference league, hope you win it so you can have bragging rights about being the first to win a European trophy, and then eventually take your rightful place in the Champions League, all at the expense of Palace

At least you've kept your head!

 

[pb21]

So it looks like rules are rules, and we should be kicked out of Europe.

This isn't correct.

At the moment you aren't 'in' Europe, so cant be kicked out, you're just in the waiting room.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Ah OK, I stand corrected again. I thought it was not considered a loan. Maybe as @Bozza says I am stupid after all. Didnt you spend over 100 million last year? Was that added to the loan, or was that all profit from the sound business model the club is operated under?

As mentioned earlier it was over £200 Million, and no, it wasn't added to the loan, it was all from profits from the sound business model that the club is operated under. In fact the profits were far beyond that also allowing us to pay a fair chunk of the loan money back to TB.

Whilst also, I believe, making us the 4th most profitable club in the history of the Premier League.

Maybe Bozza was right

 

[drew]

I think this will get sorted. They might have to get around Textor by dropping to the conference with Blitzer reducing his Danish holdings.

I too dont really want them to miss out on Europe but am finding the speculation too much fun not to giggle a little.

That doesn't make sense. Blitzer has also missed the deadline for offloading shares (or placing them in a blind trust) whether that be in Brondby or Palace!

 

[Flounce]

That doesn't make sense. Blitzer has also missed the deadline for offloading shares (or placing them in a blind trust) whether that be in Brondby or Palace!

Someone is getting the sack!

 

[dwayne]

Meeting has finished we wait with baited breath the outcome. Love how the daily mail are trying to dramatise it.

Crystal Palace's bid to avoid being KICKED OUT of Europe begins https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...tml?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

Article says we have to wait a few weeks

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

That doesn't make sense. Blitzer has also missed the deadline for offloading shares (or placing them in a blind trust) whether that be in Brondby or Palace!

Oh I fully expect UEFA will be as flexible as possible to accommodate any team so the obvious path of Textor doing the blind trust thing would be done. It just looks like he would refuse or stall to suit his own objectives. Yes there is a cut off date but there has to be some leeway for footballing minnows who never expected European football.

 

[dolphins]

Yeah saw that article too, and took a look despite it being on the Daily Fail. Spotted this line which I don't know how true, or the timeline involved, but: "Palace are due to present their argument and officials will then go away and take time to consider a decision which is likely to be forthcoming later this month".

So we potentially won't know for a bit.

 

[GeorgeKane5]

Would assume the Premier League would like to have this wrapped up ASAP with fixtures due to be released in full on the 18th June? Doesn't leave much time for Palace's fixtures to be changed dependent on the outcome of this.

 

[peterward]

My sober view on this, having been taking the piss a bit.

I'd genuinely feel a little bit bad for Palace's fans if they lost their place. I'd think it was funny, and funnier still if we qualified as a result, but they did achieve their place fair-and-square after all. As much as I dislike Palace, I don't think their fans deserve that outcome (the owners do, for not taking the opportunity to sort this out ahead of time, but that's not the fans' fault).

If (e.g.) Chelsea or Man City got kicked out of Europe over a financial rule, I wouldn't have any sympathy for their fans at all. But let's face it, nobody supports Palace for the glory. Most of them have been dreaming of this all their lives and at the end of the day, they're just football fans like the rest of us.

But having said all that, I will still point and laugh if it comes to pass (come on, I'm only human).

Then again, if the hordes of new Palace PL plastics who were never there with the garbage championship attendences, did just a little bit of research.... theyd realise Palace are a Mickey Mouse club run by chancers happy to try and cheat the system.

Hey ho

 

[lawros left foot]

Yeah saw that article too, and took a look despite it being on the Daily Fail. Spotted this line which I don't know how true, or the timeline involved, but: "Palace are due to present their argument and officials will then go away and take time to consider a decision which is likely to be forthcoming later this month".

So we potentially won't know for a bit.

Great.
More time to wind-up @Eagle Dan @loz The Paddy, before the inevitable EUFA surrender


I wish @doogie still dropped in on here sometimes.

Never thought I’d say that.

 

[Insel affe]

Would assume the Premier League would like to have this wrapped up ASAP with fixtures due to be released in full on the 18th June? Doesn't leave much time for Palace's fixtures to be changed dependent on the outcome of this.

Oh don't be a spoilt sport, let them book in all their Thursday and Sunday games to only get booted out and have to stick to them...
double whammy

 

[US Seagull]

Re Brondby in the Conference. I've noticed comments on 'if they qualify' because they are in the play-off stage, they've 6 games before the league stage.
So should Brondby fall at any stage Palace can still enter.
But does the qualifying round not count as the Conference League?

I would think that potentially makes the conflict of interest worse. No disrespect to Brondby, but I think most people would expect Palace to be a stronger team. So if you, theoretically owned a premier league team, and their participation in a potentially lucrative European competition depended on another team you had an ownership interest in not qualifying...

 

[rippleman]

Beaky's company isn't called "smoke and mirrors" for nothing. It's how he rolls.

If UEFA think they are going to get a straight and honest account of ownership, voting rights etc from Beaky and his cronies they are much mistaken. No genuine, honest business owner is going to call their business "smoke and mirrors".

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[Bob!]

Would assume the Premier League would like to have this wrapped up ASAP with fixtures due to be released in full on the 18th June? Doesn't leave much time for Palace's fixtures to be changed dependent on the outcome of this.

The fixture changes for TV and European competitions are not announced on fixture release day, but during the season ( when the TV companies decide to change them).

 

[Hotchilidog]

I don't know what Palace fans are moaning about...They did after all WIN the FA Cup, that should surely be something to celebrate in its own right, not ooh we won a competition to enter another one. The fans will still have that day to remember and whilst I will still begrudge them that (I am nothing if not bitter) I cannot deny them that.

Failure to comply with the rules regarding European competition is just typical of the shoddy way that club has been run and for us is an objectively funny thing, it is just hilarious. My head says they somehow sneak through as rules rarely seem to be an impediment to the way Palace operate but I shall wring every ounce of enjoyment out of their squirming as they wait on the munificence of a UEFA tribunal until then

 

[US Seagull]

Would assume the Premier League would like to have this wrapped up ASAP with fixtures due to be released in full on the 18th June? Doesn't leave much time for Palace's fixtures to be changed dependent on the outcome of this.

I looked up the Europa League draw dates:

When are the 2025/26 Europa League draws?​

First qualifying round: 17 June 2025
Second qualifying round: 18 June 2025
Third qualifying round: 21 July 2025
Play-offs: 4 August 2025
League phase: 29 August 2025
Knockout phase play-offs: 30 January 2026
Round of 16, quarter-final, semi-final, and final: 27 February 2026

So they'd have to sort it out by August 29th at the absolute latest, one would assume.

Also, the draw for the play-off round of the conference (the one Forest would enter) is August 4. So it they were going to swap Europa for Conference with Forest (or Forest get bumped up to Europa and we take their place in the Conference), presumably that decision would need to be made before that.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Its only been twice that we were in administration, the second time was a joke due to the small amount of money owed to a hedge fund who panicked. We took the punishment at the time which second time around was a ten point deduction. If only we had a sugar daddy who would build a new ground and donate 400 million of his fortune

A belated Happy 15th Birthday to CPFC Ltd for 1st June! Good to see this latest incarnation reaching its teens (notwithstanding the compulsory strike-off action of 2018).

A history lesson - Tony Bloom is third generation, not some Johnny Come Lately Middle Eastern sheikh. The Bloom family have been on the board for the Albion for 55 years, they are staunch (unlike your main shareholder who'd rather own Everton and sit in a new stadium, not one that is 101 years old.)

 

[pay no mind]

Its only been twice that we were in administration, the second time was a joke due to the small amount of money owed to a hedge fund who panicked. We took the punishment at the time which second time around was a ten point deduction. If only we had a sugar daddy who would build a new ground and donate 400 million of his fortune

Sugar Uncle, if you don't mind.