He wanted more control but couldn't get it, hardly someone trying to sell to help.
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[Football] If Palace can't play in the Europa League
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TWOCHOICEStom
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Power move by UEFA. Come to Switzerland and kiss the ring and we’ll let you in?
Honestly they’re not getting chucked out are they….
But with that said. CAN YOU IMAGINE?
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
8 games now, under the current format. But your point stands.
Anyway, CPFC2010 will snide their way around the rules as per usual. Its just what they do. Its baked in to their DNA.
- Oct 19, 2003
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I always thought the origins of the word palace came from a ceremonial circling of caravans in southern Londinium.
This was the pinacle of wheeled home dwellings at the time and was described by an ancient ancestor of Danny Dyer as 'crystal'.
- Oct 19, 2003
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'Cheating to cover up ineptitude for 15 years'
The fuss is the concern that UEFA will back down.
BN41Albion
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- Oct 1, 2017
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The concern? Of course they'll back down!
Arkwright
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What is the point of having rules if they are not kept too.
All clubs entered the FA Cup knew the rules, I suppose the problem is they weren't excepting to win the competition, now they suddenly want to reshuffle the pack, sorry but it's too little too late.
All clubs entered the FA Cup knew the rules, I suppose the problem is they weren't excepting to win the competition, now they suddenly want to reshuffle the pack, sorry but it's too little too late.
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Get into European competition legitimately and on merit, you’ll never sing that
B-right-on
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He didn't. But the ref bottling it by not giving Henderson a red for his clear handball outside the box did.
Insel affe
HellBilly
I knew how it would end after watching that, I gave up and went for a pint or two
Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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The are not the words of someone who seems heavily invested in the outcome. "We are trying to help Palace?" hang on a minute mate, you are Palace and this your mess you utter plum. This is the first time I genuinely, rather than humorously, think that Palace are in trouble here.
If Textor has been told to sell then he better get on with it bloody quickly, I cannot imagine they will be given much time to sort it out, and I would be looking at the June 17 draw as the crunch time. Also I think Forest would protest if they miss out on an upgrade to the more lucrative and prestigious Europa League.
While it’s fun to hope Palace get kicked out and failing that, fun to suggest that they’re cheats to be there, is there any actual clarity on exactly what the rules are around shareholdings, voting rights etc?
Also, UEFA’s rules also seem strange to me. Why is multi club ownership only an issue if the clubs are in the same competition? Why is owning one club in the Champions League, one in the Europa League and one in the Conference League?
If UEFA don’t like multi club ownership why not outright ban it? Do they only have power over teams in UEFA competitions? It seems the rules could be simplified to help avoid these types of situations.
Also, UEFA’s rules also seem strange to me. Why is multi club ownership only an issue if the clubs are in the same competition? Why is owning one club in the Champions League, one in the Europa League and one in the Conference League?
If UEFA don’t like multi club ownership why not outright ban it? Do they only have power over teams in UEFA competitions? It seems the rules could be simplified to help avoid these types of situations.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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- Oct 4, 2003
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The rules do cover clubs playing in any European competition rather than just the same one.
It depends on where a club is entering the competition. As clubs no longer drop into a lower competition at the end of the league stage then clubs that enter at that point would only need to worry if they are in the same competition (like Palace and Lyon).
However teams still drop into the lower competitions if they are knocked out in the qualifying rounds. So if an owner has clubs entering in the qualifying rounds they’d have to ensure all clubs under their ownership, in European competitions that season, met the rules even if some were going straight into a league stage as there is a potential for the teams to end up in the same competition.
This could have effected Forest as Olympiacos were due to enter the Champions League in the 2nd qualifying round, so could have easily found themselves in the Europa or Conference League. It isn’t an issue now as they’ve qualified directly for the Champions League group stage because winners PSG also qualified through their domestic league.
Forest covered this off anyway by putting the club into a blind trust, although they too may have missed the deadline.
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pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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To get into a European competition legitimately and on merit you have to win a cup and/or finish high enough in the league AND met the eligibility criteria. Something palace very likely wont have done.
Some analysis of why UEFA may interpret Textor as having more than 25% of the voting rights...
theboybilly
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I've never read that Palace were ever pulled over the coals for continually submitting their accounts to the Premier League six months or so late so it looks like they'll get away with this. Absolutely no shame in any of that shower
pb21
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Given that its apparently straightforward to organise things so that compliance is met, could it be the case that palace chose not to take these measures?
Its either that they can't organise a piss up in a brewery (or cant be bothered) or possibly could it be something more nefarious that would be highlighted if they did make changes? Makes you wonder...
Its either that they can't organise a piss up in a brewery (or cant be bothered) or possibly could it be something more nefarious that would be highlighted if they did make changes? Makes you wonder...
Because that's the only time you could directly 'influence' the outcome of something. If the clubs are in different competitions they can't meet each other. Basically the question is 'what would Textor do/order if Palace met Lyons?'