A world without America
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Which will bring us back to DOH!.... I mean America;
Whatever people might say about a world without that big chunk of a continent, they have made a significant impact and difference to the World as we know it. As Britain basically started colonising that area, they are not too far removed from other colonies in that they speak our language and are now allied with us. If shit hits fan for this nation, would the Australian cavalry come over the hill to sort things? Hmm.
The problems the US have, is that in their own ways they have tried to design a world that suited them best, instead of an America that best suited the world. Whenever the balances are upset enough abroad, they find themselves having to get embroiled in those issues. Not that we haven't had our share of that in the past either, in trying to maintain a commonwealth, sorting Zulus and Ghandi, and having to take on Argentina more recently.
The trouble is, that if a nation try to live autonomously without troubling itself about the world around it, then the world will likely come to that nation and start something anyway.
Whatever people might say about a world without that big chunk of a continent, they have made a significant impact and difference to the World as we know it. As Britain basically started colonising that area, they are not too far removed from other colonies in that they speak our language and are now allied with us. If shit hits fan for this nation, would the Australian cavalry come over the hill to sort things? Hmm.
The problems the US have, is that in their own ways they have tried to design a world that suited them best, instead of an America that best suited the world. Whenever the balances are upset enough abroad, they find themselves having to get embroiled in those issues. Not that we haven't had our share of that in the past either, in trying to maintain a commonwealth, sorting Zulus and Ghandi, and having to take on Argentina more recently.
The trouble is, that if a nation try to live autonomously without troubling itself about the world around it, then the world will likely come to that nation and start something anyway.
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
I wish they'd take it back!Buzzer said:
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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Buba said:
Beirut
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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Buzzer said:
Didn't say they were worthless. I just object to opinion being passed off as fact. My opinions are just that - OPINIONS. A bit like me thinking Mark McGhee was shite.
So they must agree with the things that Brigitte Gabriel said in this video.Common as Mook said:
Or that they don't if they are Hizbullah supporters cause Israeli soldiers found:
Buzzer
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Common as Mook said:
Don't buy this. If you getting information second-hand makes you qualified to have a view then the fact that Buba actually lives there must make his worldview as qualified, if not more.
Although McGhee was truly shite.
Oh, and just because it's an opinion doesn't mean it can't also be fact. It might be that your opinion is wrong. Or perhaps a tad biased against Israel.
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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Buba said:
I don't have the time or the stomach to wade through your propaganda. They believe in Palestine as an Arab state. they are also peace loving people. It is possible to be both.
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
FFS I'm not trying to have a pop. Here is the history of EnglandBuba said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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Buzzer said:Don't buy this. If you getting information second-hand makes you qualified to have a view then the fact that Buba actually lives there must make his worldview as qualified, if not more.
Although McGhee was truly shite.
Oh, and just because it's an opinion doesn't mean it can't also be fact. It might be that your opinion is wrong. Or perhaps a tad biased against Israel.
We're going round in circles here....... Information from my family might be second hand but they aren't liars, if that's what you're implying.
It's a shame, because I usually agree with you on most things. Not this time unfortunately
It's not propaganda, but truth.Common as Mook said:
And criminals believe that money of others can be stolen from them, and rapists believe that they can rape other women and padophiles believe that they can do what they want to young kids.Common as Mook said:
Who cares what the enemies of Israel and what the haters of Israel think? they are liers, full with dreams.
When your family members speak about peace then they are speaking about the complete destruction of the state of Israel.
And as I've said in my former post - there's no such thing as "Palestine".
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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Common as Mook said:
Sorry if I've offended - really. I'm sorry. I'm not saying that your family's lying either.
Two people can have opposing views that are opinions and they can both be fact.
Young Jew: I distrust Arabs. They keep commiting acts of terrorism
Young Arab: I distrust Jews. They build walls to keep us in and bomb my country.
Both are sadly true and both are linked.
I don't pretend to know the answer unless it's as simple as all of us realising that we all worship the same God, all of us have got to live somewhere, all of us have the right to a peaceful co-existence.
Oh, and stop America, Britain, Russia, France, Iran and Syria from arming the two sides.
Raphael Meade
Well-known member
Buba said:
you're f***ing nuts innit.
and pretty bloody rude to boot, talking about the man's family like that.
feel free to get lost
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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How can you post that picture and then say it's not propaganda?
Raphael Meade
Well-known member
Buzzer said:Sorry if I've offended - really. I'm sorry. I'm not saying that your family's lying either.
Two people can have opposing views that are opinions and they can both be fact.
Young Jew: I distrust Arabs. They keep commiting acts of terrorism
Young Arab: I distrust Jews. They build walls to keep us in and bomb my country.
Both are sadly true and both are linked.
I don't pretend to know the answer unless it's as simple as all of us realising that we all worship the same God, all of us have got to live somewhere, all of us have the right to a peaceful co-existence.
Oh, and stop America, Britain, Russia, France, Iran and Syria from arming the two sides.
EXCELLENT post all round
f***ing nuts inside you may say to your father.Raphael Meade said:you're f***ing nuts innit.
and pretty bloody rude to boot, talking about the man's family like that.
feel free to get lost
Or is it that Jews who defend themselves from their enemies are consider to be "f***ing nuts inside"?
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
- 5,646
Buzzer said:Sorry if I've offended - really. I'm sorry. I'm not saying that your family's lying either.
Two people can have opposing views that are opinions and they can both be fact.
Young Jew: I distrust Arabs. They keep commiting acts of terrorism
Young Arab: I distrust Jews. They build walls to keep us in and bomb my country.
Both are sadly true and both are linked.
I don't pretend to know the answer unless it's as simple as all of us realising that we all worship the same God, all of us have got to live somewhere, all of us have the right to a peaceful co-existence.
Oh, and stop America, Britain, Russia, France, Iran and Syria from arming the two sides.
Thats more like it
Although I am obviously biased, I am intelligent enough to realise there are two sides to the argument.Raphael Meade
Well-known member
Buba said:
eh?