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Raphael Meade said:
I think s/he is trying to say you f*** your father or get f***ed by your father...
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I think s/he is trying to say you f*** your father or get f***ed by your father...
No.Biskuit von Kekse said:
I'm saying (not comparing) that the ones who say that Jews have no right to live on their own tiny piece of land, and the ones who spread lies and distort the truth - these people - their opinions doesn't matter in the same way that the opinions of criminals, rapists and padophiles doesn't matter.
The members of his family - they don't disagree with Israel but they wish for the destruction of Israe, and there is a big difference between the two.
BTW, I have a wonderful translated article about that:
This article was written by Arie Eldad and was published in Maariv newspaper at 2.3.2007
From Persia to Iran
"And Haman said unto king Ahasuerus: 'There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed among the peoples in all the provinces of thy kingdom; and their laws are diverse from those of every people; neither keep they the king's laws; therefore it profiteth not the king to suffer them. If it please the king, let it be written that they be destroyed; and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver into the hands of those that have the charge of the king's business, to bring it into the king's treasuries."
In these few sentences from the scroll of Esther there is the history of anti-semitism and the existential threat upon the nation of Israel that it (history of anti-semitism) packs in it's wings. There is everything in here: Also the hate of Israel as the hate toward the different, also the instigation against the nation of Israel because of it's characters. Either in it's ancient method, the greek or the Christian one, against those who have a different religion, and either in its modern translations, the Russians, the Germans and the Muslims: The Nazi instigation against the Jews who control the international media, who pull the strings and activate other countries against Germany; Or the Communist-Russian instigation against the Jews, who are scattered all over the world as agents of imperialism and activate the international capitalism everewhere, the cosmopolitanism which is the enemy of the revolution; The combination of the 2 elements, the ancient and the new one, in the Islamic Judophobia: The Jews are the enemies of the prophet and the allies of the American satan.
And always the profit account: the profits of the crime that will follow the genocide, or the profit of the power that is kept to the one who will succeed to hitch a whole nation to his carriage of hate. And there is another pattern of thought, paradigm of sickly hate, hidden in here and operates in the Jewish history and in the history of hate toward Israel: they are different, the Jews, they don't bring benefit, therefore they don't have a right to exist, therefore it's allowed to destroy them.
The Jews of the scroll tried to escape from their destiny. They tried to become Persians. Even if the name of his father is Yair, a Hebrew name, the name of the son is Mordechai, a Persian name. Even if the name of her father is Avichayil, a Hebrew name, the name of her is Esther, a Persian name. She is in the palace of the king and in his bed, he is in the gate of the king. And even if they changed their names and penetrated into the officialdom, Haman raised and wishes to destroy them. This is how the emancipation of the exiled Jews in Persia – failed, in the same way that the emancipation in Europe failed. Despite the "equal rights" that the Jews won in Europe after the French revolution, the opening of the gates of the ghetto and the integration of the Jews in the society – the crowd in Paris after the trial of Dreyfus screamed "Death to Jews".
And Herzl heard the sound of the train wheels to Auschwitz. He was sure that the exile is the disease and that anti-semitism is the symptom. And if he will take out the Jews from the exile – the "Jewish trouble" will vanished. And here we came back to the land of our fathers with the help of G-d and with the power of the great Zionist soul and with the power of the push that banished us from every place and wrote on the walls in Polish and in Russian: "Jews, go to Palestina!"
And now, when we are a free nation in our country, all the ones who hate us scream: "Jews, get out of Palestina!" The new fascistic left in Europe and the new fascistic Islam around us, hate us now apparently because we are not scattered anymore and we came back to concentrate in the land of our fathers.
The argumentation that says that Jews have no right to an independent state in the land of Israel because it belongs to the Arabs, comes to serve the ancient logic which says that if we don't have a right to exist then it's allowed to destroy us. The deligitimization of the Jewish nation, that Haman wished to achieve with the help of the seal of the king is now wearing the logic pattern in the style of the new Persia, it's Iran, which says – Jews don't have rights upon the land of Israel, therefore we are allowed to produce nuclear weapons in order to destroy them. And all the ones who join the anti-Israeli choir with explanations of defending the rights of the "Palestinian nation", everyone who accuses us with apartheid and everyone who accuses the IDF that it's a Judeo-Nazi army, who libels us with accusations of genocide in Jenin, Beirut or in Gaza – is saying this in order to pull down the ethical justification for the existence of the Jewish state in the land of Israel and to prepare the sealed hearts of the new and the old anti-semites for the destruction of us.
They really don't care, the Jew haters, if we are scattered or concentrate. When we were scattered, Torquemada, Chmelnitzky, Hitler and Stalin arised; When we came back and concentrate in our country, the Husseinis, the Arafats, the Mashals and the Nasrallahs arised. And while one Haman, Saddam Hussein, is hanging on the rope, a new Haman is raising, Ahmadenijad, and threatens to destroy Israel. In every generation the excuses are changing, and the target is one: the destruction of Israel.
When we were in the exile we were dependent upon the many Ahasuerus to save us. And the rescuing was never promised, therefore Purim is a miracle. In the destruction days in Europe, the many gentile Ahasuerus didn't stand by our side and didn’t prevent the destruction. Since we came back to our country we are masters to our destiny and responsible to it, therefore we should not trust the gentiles who will do the job for us. Like in the end of the scroll: The Jews will arise upon their haters, to avenge them with their own hands.
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This article was written by Arie Eldad and was published in Maariv newspaper at 2.3.2007
From Persia to Iran
"And Haman said unto king Ahasuerus: 'There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed among the peoples in all the provinces of thy kingdom; and their laws are diverse from those of every people; neither keep they the king's laws; therefore it profiteth not the king to suffer them. If it please the king, let it be written that they be destroyed; and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver into the hands of those that have the charge of the king's business, to bring it into the king's treasuries."
In these few sentences from the scroll of Esther there is the history of anti-semitism and the existential threat upon the nation of Israel that it (history of anti-semitism) packs in it's wings. There is everything in here: Also the hate of Israel as the hate toward the different, also the instigation against the nation of Israel because of it's characters. Either in it's ancient method, the greek or the Christian one, against those who have a different religion, and either in its modern translations, the Russians, the Germans and the Muslims: The Nazi instigation against the Jews who control the international media, who pull the strings and activate other countries against Germany; Or the Communist-Russian instigation against the Jews, who are scattered all over the world as agents of imperialism and activate the international capitalism everewhere, the cosmopolitanism which is the enemy of the revolution; The combination of the 2 elements, the ancient and the new one, in the Islamic Judophobia: The Jews are the enemies of the prophet and the allies of the American satan.
And always the profit account: the profits of the crime that will follow the genocide, or the profit of the power that is kept to the one who will succeed to hitch a whole nation to his carriage of hate. And there is another pattern of thought, paradigm of sickly hate, hidden in here and operates in the Jewish history and in the history of hate toward Israel: they are different, the Jews, they don't bring benefit, therefore they don't have a right to exist, therefore it's allowed to destroy them.
The Jews of the scroll tried to escape from their destiny. They tried to become Persians. Even if the name of his father is Yair, a Hebrew name, the name of the son is Mordechai, a Persian name. Even if the name of her father is Avichayil, a Hebrew name, the name of her is Esther, a Persian name. She is in the palace of the king and in his bed, he is in the gate of the king. And even if they changed their names and penetrated into the officialdom, Haman raised and wishes to destroy them. This is how the emancipation of the exiled Jews in Persia – failed, in the same way that the emancipation in Europe failed. Despite the "equal rights" that the Jews won in Europe after the French revolution, the opening of the gates of the ghetto and the integration of the Jews in the society – the crowd in Paris after the trial of Dreyfus screamed "Death to Jews".
And Herzl heard the sound of the train wheels to Auschwitz. He was sure that the exile is the disease and that anti-semitism is the symptom. And if he will take out the Jews from the exile – the "Jewish trouble" will vanished. And here we came back to the land of our fathers with the help of G-d and with the power of the great Zionist soul and with the power of the push that banished us from every place and wrote on the walls in Polish and in Russian: "Jews, go to Palestina!"
And now, when we are a free nation in our country, all the ones who hate us scream: "Jews, get out of Palestina!" The new fascistic left in Europe and the new fascistic Islam around us, hate us now apparently because we are not scattered anymore and we came back to concentrate in the land of our fathers.
The argumentation that says that Jews have no right to an independent state in the land of Israel because it belongs to the Arabs, comes to serve the ancient logic which says that if we don't have a right to exist then it's allowed to destroy us. The deligitimization of the Jewish nation, that Haman wished to achieve with the help of the seal of the king is now wearing the logic pattern in the style of the new Persia, it's Iran, which says – Jews don't have rights upon the land of Israel, therefore we are allowed to produce nuclear weapons in order to destroy them. And all the ones who join the anti-Israeli choir with explanations of defending the rights of the "Palestinian nation", everyone who accuses us with apartheid and everyone who accuses the IDF that it's a Judeo-Nazi army, who libels us with accusations of genocide in Jenin, Beirut or in Gaza – is saying this in order to pull down the ethical justification for the existence of the Jewish state in the land of Israel and to prepare the sealed hearts of the new and the old anti-semites for the destruction of us.
They really don't care, the Jew haters, if we are scattered or concentrate. When we were scattered, Torquemada, Chmelnitzky, Hitler and Stalin arised; When we came back and concentrate in our country, the Husseinis, the Arafats, the Mashals and the Nasrallahs arised. And while one Haman, Saddam Hussein, is hanging on the rope, a new Haman is raising, Ahmadenijad, and threatens to destroy Israel. In every generation the excuses are changing, and the target is one: the destruction of Israel.
When we were in the exile we were dependent upon the many Ahasuerus to save us. And the rescuing was never promised, therefore Purim is a miracle. In the destruction days in Europe, the many gentile Ahasuerus didn't stand by our side and didn’t prevent the destruction. Since we came back to our country we are masters to our destiny and responsible to it, therefore we should not trust the gentiles who will do the job for us. Like in the end of the scroll: The Jews will arise upon their haters, to avenge them with their own hands.
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Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
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Buba said:
Of course you did.Raphael Meade
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Buba said:
you've got some pretty screwed up views i gotta say.....
No, the thing is that you can't stand the fact that Jews are independent and not living in your hand anymore.Raphael Meade said:
According to you - the things that allowed to other people i.e. defending themselves - are not allowed to Jews.
I guess that you are just another knight of double standard.
Franks Wild Years
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Buzzer said:
That made me laugh
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Buba said:
My landlord is Jewish, so I am living in his hand as it were.
Time will prove that I came in order to talk about football, alcohol and food.Common as Mook said:
But as long as people slander the name of Israel then I'll protect my people.
And what is the reason that YOU came here? I hope that the reason is not to spread lies and misleading about Israel.
No, he is living in your country, and he depends upon the actions of you, not the opposite.Barrel of Fun said:
There were many Jewish landlords in Europe 60 years ago, and what was their destiny? Their neighbours sent them to the gas chambers and betrayed them.
Raphael Meade
Well-known member
Buba said:
i can't even be bothered to argue with you anymore. killing thousands is not defending, etc, etc, blah, blah..
i'm jewish by the way.
i'm just not a mentalist
No, he is not, England doesn't belong to Jews, the only country of the Jews is Israel.Buzzer said:
Jews don't share the English heritage that you share, Jews don't share the language that you share, and the best proof that England is not the country of the Jews is when they were exiled from England 300 years ago, and I should mention also the fact that they were returned to England again for the honesty of truth.
Anyway, please don't see it personally. I've been to England couple of times, and I received the best hospitality and the best treatment, and people knew that I'm Jewish, but that doesn't says that Jews feel in England in the same way that gentile English feel.
And anyway, these people below were also born in England (and also in America), and pay attention to what they say:
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Buba said:
He is living in HIS country as his English mother, who is jewish, married an English Architect. He is actually a very good friend of mine and we depend on each others friendships. Plus, he is a carpenter, so a dab hand at DIY.
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Southover Street Seagull
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Buzzer said:Don't buy this. If you getting information second-hand makes you qualified to have a view then the fact that Buba actually lives there must make his worldview as qualified, if not more.
Although McGhee was truly shite.
Oh, and just because it's an opinion doesn't mean it can't also be fact. It might be that your opinion is wrong. Or perhaps a tad biased against Israel.
Buzzer do you seriously believe all the stuff that Buba is posting, it's nothing more than propoganda? I find a lot of the so called facts could easily be argued against, in fact many of the so called facts that are being passed off are from the Bible, a book that is over 3000 years old (Old Testament).
The Torah (5 books inside the Tanach) is a juridical document, 600,000 men above the age of 20 (and their wives, children, total number of 3 million people) were witnessed the exodus from Egypt and witnessed the revelation in mount Horeb and witnessed the words of G-d when he spoke the Torah to them.Southover Street Seagull said:
Jews believe in the book in the name of Tanach.
This message below is written in the intro of every Tanach book that soldiers of the IDF receive after they finish basic training:
B"H
Soldiers of the IDF
Handed over (this book) to you this book of books, the asset of the nation and her source of existence, the book which is the livestock note and an ownership document to our country and to the estate of our fathers.
This book gives us the right as a one nation to declare in front of a large crowd: "renew our days as of old" (Lamentations 5:21).
The nation of Israel, already in his first steps, started from Abraham – father of the nation, who called out in the name of a singular God - creator of the world - faced an idolatrous world which surrounded him, and although he was alone in his faith, like our sages of blessed memory have said: Abraham stood on one side and the whole world stood on the other side, he attached his faith with all his heart, with interested soul and without recoiling.
The divine revelation in Egypt, when the Holy One Blessed be He took the descendants of Abraham his chosen, out from the slavery furnace, while changing the laws of nature, was in order to bring them to the exalted position, high level and one-time in the history of mankind, as written: "For who is there of all flesh, that hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived" (Deuteronomy 5:23), when he gave his Torah – Torah of truth.
He gave his Torah of Hashem, a heritage to his nation, into the hand of his prophet Moses – his faithful servant.
This book of books which has been given to your hands, is the essence and the foundation of mankind's culture and the secret of the eternity of Israel in all generations.
Soldiers of the IDF, the carriers of the flag of freedom and the security of the nation, keep this Torah book of Hashem, learn it and fulfill the last will of Moses to Joshua "…that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law" (Deuteronomy 31:12), and then we will be appropriated that the promise of God in his Torah will be valid: "for the LORD your God is He that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you" (Deuteronomy 20:4).
Major-General Gad Navon
Chief Rabbi of the IDF
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