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What do you think would be the outcome of this at the election? Sorry I know this isn't a political thread. I also think there are some situations where we do as a nation need to present a united front. Ukraine and Gaza are two examples

International pressure, even from Biden is not having much effect. Netanhayu has gone balls in, more for his own political survival than anything. But yes, the Labour position has been a cock up. But I sort of understand the reasons why. Everything. Absolutely everything is subordinated to...

How was that recording obtained?

The truth of this must come out. I agree with Jeremty Bowen when he made the point, in a none to subtle way that Hamas rockets, in the past, have nothing like this sort of firepower. It could be that they procured a more powerful rocket from Iran or somewhere and misfired it. But far more...

Very carefully avoided the no personal abuse rule there :)

OK, well if you found a size comparison map of the Gaza strip, where 2m plus people have been herded into than I think we could make a different point. What does it matter how big Africa etc is? The Palestinians in Gaza can't get there (even if we accept the massively dubious assertion that...

I've lost track of what message you're replying to, but my imagination has kicked in and i'm suddenly very interested in your anecdote.

Yep. We mix the serious and the fun stuff with all the aplomb of Ally McCoist of Talksport

OK, but you didn't say this in your original post. You said that he was advocating breaking international law. I doubt your and my sympathies are much different, but you're continually putting partial and misleading information on the internet. Here you're getting picked up, by in other...

I didn't listen to this. But again, has Starmer unequivocally endorsed a war crime on national radio, or have you taken something he's said and distorted it? You will forgive my scepticism, but i'm there to be convinced. Did he support no food, electricity etc, which would be a war crime or...

I think it should be lit up with the Israeli flag, in solidarity with the innocent people brutally murdered at the hands of Hamas Then it should cycle to the Palestinian flag, in solidarity with those (many more in number) brutally murdered by the Israeli government. Actually you're right...

I disagree with you here. Hamas obviously knew that murdering with women and children would lead to colossal escalation and must have either accepted this as a price worth paying, or more likely as way of bringing others into the conflict. I can't get into the crazed minds of Hamas, so can't...

The coming days and weeks will be horrific, there will be huge bloodshed on both sides. But the world needs to come together and make a plan. This has been drifting for too long and to me, this represents a global diplomatic failure. Yes we're a million miles away from peace now. But we at...

You know. I think it's ok to be furious with the actions of the Israeli government over the last years. But at the moment, with passions running high, the words used and the accuracy of the claims made matter

But decapitated babies is a very specific claim. Now you're suggesting you're not an expert but it must have happened. You're spreading misleading information on the internet. I think you've been deliberately imprecise in the hope of getting others to believe it.

I'm glad you won't, but where did you learn that the IDF has decapitated babies? Has this been verified?

As a starting point, let's make sure western leaders know that through their language and backing they can't give Netanhayu carte blanche to carry out mass murder with impunity.

It would be quite remarkable if NSC succeeded where global diplomacy has failed over 50 or more years. However, I think we can all agree that both sides exercising restraint is the first step on any path

This bombardment that's happening, the possible ground invasion, the deaths from taking away water, electricity etc ..... now there's not going to be an official death toll of innocent non combatants, even an accurate assessment will take a while. But surely there is every likelihood, that the...

My friend, that's not a hope any of us can cling to i'm afraid