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Dangerous Idiot
He said Mr Taylor I think you may have got the decision incorrectDo we know what he is supposed to have said? I've not read all 350 posts to find out so apologies if it's already been mentioned.
You f***ing bald ****
He said Mr Taylor I think you may have got the decision incorrectDo we know what he is supposed to have said? I've not read all 350 posts to find out so apologies if it's already been mentioned.
He didn't say it to his face.It is, of course, possible that a player telling a referee that he's a complete bellend straight to his face is actually a fairly rare occurence
Once in 15 years in the EPL? Doesn't appear to be very "that's it", does it? More like it's not Bruno Fernández or Virgil Van Dijk or Romero or Gallagher or Trippier or Ashley Young or any other player but it's Lewis Dunk and his manager doesn't like me, plus I've completely lost control so I'm going to brandish a red for once in my career when a player accurately describes me.It did seem a little odd. I must say. There was part of me that wondered if there was an even up thing going on. It could be argued Pedros wasn't clear and obvious as he is inclined to wrap like a python on defenders.
The Dunk sending off is something I'm bewildered at the sackcloth and ash response to. Use foul and abusive language to a ref and see red. That's it.
The evidence suggests the referees are incompetent and/or other factors are in play to explain their inconsistency. We see it in virtually every game. Nothing libellous there. Taylor dishing out the first red card for foul and abusive language in the prem for 12 years is an indication that competent consistency is not on the menu.I've warned you privately, and now I'm warning you publicly. Post things about officials on here that you can't back up and you'll be banned.
I've absolutely no doubt that PGMOL will check the social media and message boards of the competing clubs. If they take objection to something that clearly cannot be proven in any way, you'll be gone before NSC is.
Capiche?
Alternatively, if you look at the footage and apply basic lip reading it's clear why Taylor was having none of it.Once in 15 years in the EPL? Doesn't appear to be very "that's it", does it? More like it's not Bruno Fernández or Virgil Van Dijk or Romero or Gallagher or Trippier or Ashley Young or any other player but it's Lewis Dunk and his manager doesn't like me, plus I've completely lost control so I'm going to brandish a red for once in my career when a player accurately describes me.
I recall one of the fouls - he was dribbling towards the edge of the South stand penalty area - the ball got away from him a bit, and he lunged in after it, catching the defender as he cleared the ball.The bookings against West Ham and Villa were for fouls according to the match day timelines on Sky Sports. The Luton timeline just says Mitoma is shown a yellow card, doesn’t say why.
Understood. Why has neither Taylor nor any other EPL ref applied the same punishment on any other occasion in the last 12 years? Was he uniquely offended by the word "bald"?Alternatively, if you look at the footage and apply basic lip reading it's clear why Taylor was having none of it.
Whilst I might challenge the competency of the Forest penalty decision, I find it hard how any defence is offered on Dunk's sending off. As I said, if it was a Forest player most of the consternation would be absent and folk would be saying 'quite right'.
I remember the lunge challenge now you mention it. And the Luton one being for kicking the ball away would be right for early in the season when they were actually issuing bookings for that.I recall one of the fouls - he was dribbling towards the edge of the South stand penalty area - the ball got away from him a bit, and he lunged in after it, catching the defender as he cleared the ball.
The one that wasn't a foul, was for lashing the ball into the away crowd behind the goal, after the (offside?) whistle had gone.
It looks rules have been tightened.Understood. Why has neither Taylor nor any other EPL ref applied the same punishment on any other occasion in the last 12 years? Was he uniquely offended by the word "bald"?
Also calling a ref or opposing player a cheat is a red card if I remember rightly from my refereeing days…although that might have changed from 35 years ago ?When I reffed many years ago I used to give one warning for swearing to each team and then yellowed any culprits. Spitting was my pet hate especially when aimed at opposing players and was a straight red. Problem was the younger players used to copy what they watched in televised matches on TV.
Here’s my unprofessional take on it FWIW;The evidence suggests the referees are incompetent and/or other factors are in play to explain their inconsistency. We see it in virtually every game. Nothing libellous there. Taylor dishing out the first red card for foul and abusive language in the prem for 12 years is an indication that competent consistency is not on the menu.
Absolutely right that there should be zero tolerance for abusive language but, if that's the case, it has to be applied consistently. The problem with Dunk's dismissal is that it looks like he was made an example of, and that's a poor reflection on the referee and might be seen as vindictive, in the light of RDZ'S recent comments about referees. A real mess.It looks rules have been tightened.
The point is abusive language has to have zero tolerance where refs are concerned.
We've seen the problem at grassroots level. So the highest level has to set an example. If it doesn't, then there won't be any referees left.
Sorry mate, but this was not a Sunday League match........................who else would he have been effing and blinding at ?Everybody feels their own club is harder done by than any other. It's one of the side effects of football being a sport followed largely by manbabies who increasingly believe they have no agency in a rapidly diversifying and less easily understandable world (and that's not a criticism btw as I'm just as guilty of this myself).
That said, was the player in the Spurs-Villa game swearing in front of the ref or directly calling the ref a bad word? There's a big difference. A mate of mine briefly reffed Sussex Sunday League games a decade or so ago (and won ref of the year in his first season). He rarely booked and never sent anyone off for randomly effing and blinding about stuff (and effed and blinded back with them) but the first and only guy to say "you're a c**t, ref" to him got a straight red and (Sussex FA imposed) three month ban.
There's a big difference re whether swearing is directed at the situation (the air, the decision, the general sense of exasperation etc) or specifically at the person with the whistle. I'm not saying that's the key difference between McGinn and Dunk today (as I have seen neither incident even via video) but I rather suspect it might be tbh.
Inforces the fact that so many overeseas players soon pick up on English expletives !Now I'm not an expert lip reader but I'm fairly sure I saw Youri Tielemans call Rob Jones "f***ing shit" yesterday to his face. I genuinely can't see the difference unless bald is now the offensive word we all should refrain from saying.
Yawn..............................................................Maybe the F word is deemed slightly less offensive than the C word.
but I can remember rugby at school nearly 60 years ago (hated it) - any arguing with the referee and you’re sent off.
maybe football should do the same. And it is the inconsistency that jars!
You may jest but in this 'woke' world we now live in where everyone is reserving the right to be insulted about not much this might be the case. You now have to say ' follicly challenged 'Now I'm not an expert lip reader but I'm fairly sure I saw Youri Tielemans call Rob Jones "f***ing shit" yesterday to his face. I genuinely can't see the difference unless bald is now the offensive word we all should refrain from saying.