Two Derby Fans in Court...

[hans kraay fan club]

I really don't think it's worth wasting money on taking people to court for this. The best way to deal with these Gents is to simply ban them from all football grounds and make them do community service on every Saturday afternoon of the football season.

erm. How are you going to give them Community Orders without taking them to court?

 

[public school boy]

erm. How are you going to give them Community Orders without taking them to court?

Fixed penalty for this type of crime. Get it on the statute book. Is it really worth taking them to court? Just ban them from all grounds.

 

[Eksman]

Hahah they gotta come all the way back down here

 

[Husty]

Millwall could be 100+ if it weren't for all the police being otherwise engaged

Feel sorry for Darren and his team. There is a line where banter turns nasty and it isnt easy. I saw and heard one lad in the van after the Derby game and he had every chance to have gone home with a warning but just would not let up.

Stewards wont have the balls to pick out any from the Leeds or Millwall travelling contingents, they'll continue to pick on the smaller teams with fewer fans where there's less chance of getting a slap (although I believe some Derby did anyway, well done them) whilst the big teams who sing much worse chants will continue to get away with it. It's how it worked at the Withdean with standing and it will continue to happen at the Amex with Homophobia.

 

[SeagullinExile]

78.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Being a self confessed Nancy and possibly the biggest Pretty boy on NSC, I really don't think it's worth wasting money on taking people to court for this. The best way to deal with these Gents is to simply ban them from all football grounds and make them do community service on every Saturday afternoon of the football season.

Makes more sense. Maybe they can force them to steward at next years Pride?!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Fixed penalty for this type of crime. Get it on the statute book. Is it really worth taking them to court? Just ban them from all grounds.

How do you like your policing?

Governed by the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"? Or "found guilty on the say-so of one police officer"?

I guess we all yearn for the day when the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is consigned to the bin, alongside all that Euro-nonsense that makes Theresa May's job so difficult.

Article 11 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: "Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.".

 

[SeagullinExile]

erm. How are you going to give them Community Orders without taking them to court?

That's a point well made! Maybe they could slap down on-the-spot fines? Similar to when they catch people pissing in public.

 

[stripeyshark]

Does that apply to racism?

It's just chanting. Words not even directed at anyone. I really don't see the harm.

 

[stripeyshark]

I concede. Your point was made too well.

 

[Phat Baz 68]

A round 76

 

[pork pie]

Fixed penalty for this type of crime. Get it on the statute book. Is it really worth taking them to court? Just ban them from all grounds.

Bollox! It is stupid criminalising people for such a silly thing. What is the UK coming to? Real criminals get away scott free, and these people end up in court.

Trust me, I hate our beloved team being tainted by such a slur, but it is not worth wasting tax payers money taking things to court - unless it involves threatening behaviour or physical assault.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Bit over the top if you ask me , when will it end ? How many Brighton fans sing 'You fat *******' is that not the same ? when will that become a criminal offence ? Just a bit of banter if you ask me does no one any harm , sticks and stones and all that ! Now they will get a fine and have to come all the way from Humberside for the court hearing , well over the top !

This is my opinion and away supporters can call me all what they want and will get it back ))) no wonder there is no atmosphere these days.

South Cave near Brough is in the East Riding of Yorkshire.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

How do you like your policing?

Governed by the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"? Or "found guilty on the say-so of one police officer"?

I guess we all yearn for the day when the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is consigned to the bin, alongside all that Euro-nonsense that makes Theresa May's job so difficult.

Article 11 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: "Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.".

Not saying I agree or disagree, but there are plenty of offences for which you can be fined, or issued with a fixed penalty on the say so of a police officer.

 

[Creaky]

Not saying I agree or disagree, but there are plenty of offences for which you can be fined, or issued with a fixed penalty on the say so of a police officer.

And to which you have the right to challenge in court if you so wish.

 

[MICK PATCHAM]

 

[Mowgli37]

I just sing back the 'You're too ugly to be gay' chant

 

[Deleted member 2719]

This country really needs to man up.

 

[Beach Hut]

So what happens when we sing "You dirty northern *******s" can we be arrested for "northernism" ?

 

[Deleted member 2719]

So what happens when we sing "You dirty northern *******s" can we be arrested for "northernism" ?

Probably, good job Refs all know that they are Wa***rs then.