[Albion] Time wasting last night

[Neville's Breakfast]

Post-match thoughts v Brighton

Had a rough couple of days. Nothing serious, just a fever/bug of some sort, but don't feel up to this tonight. Over to you...

bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk

Some interesting views on here about Brighton time wasting. Bearing in mind the recent NSC unhappiness about Fulham…thoughts ?

 

[Bozza]

I bit my tongue on some recent threads on this because our players will use "game management" just like everyone else when the need arises.

We're not saints.

 

[Hotchilidog]

There is time wasting, and there is watching Fulham and Aston Villa. All teams do it but some teams are far worse than others.

 

[pb21]

There's time wasting / 'game management' etc. and there is taking the piss, and there is a fine line between the two.

IMO we are on the game management side of the line, most of the time, but not always. I didn't think we strayed far yesterday, Steele did get booked, but nothing particularly poor IMO.

That Fulham performance was a full on taking the piss for 90-minutes, we've never sunk anywhere near as low as that.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

There is time wasting, and there is watching Fulham and Aston Villa. All teams do it but some teams are far worse than others.

One bloke on that thread says we are the worst he has ever seen..

 

[Bozza]

There's time wasting / 'game management' etc. and there is taking the piss, and there is a fine line between the two.

Broadly the difference is this...

Opposition does it: outrageous time-wasting and the ref needs to get a grip.
We do it: shrewd game management, well done chaps.

And most fans of most clubs are exactly the same.

 

[Bozza]

One difference with us, at least under De Zerbi, is that we won't "game manage" our way to a point. We want to win and will chase the game to try and do that.

 

[Hotchilidog]

One bloke on that thread says we are the worst he has ever seen..

Then he clearly doesn't get out much. A few others on there respectfully reluctant to cast stones however, which was nice.

 

[pb21]

Broadly the difference is this...

Opposition does it: outrageous time-wasting and the ref needs to get a grip.
We do it: shrewd game management, well done chaps.

And most fans of most clubs are exactly the same.

I don't think it's as black and white as that. I can specifically recall the Fulham performance, other times its frustrating at the time, but forgotten about soon after. That was a different level.

 

[Monkey Man]

If anything I was surprised we didn't indulge in more "game management" last night. At times I just wanted us to keep the ball and/or slow things down, but (a) Bournemouth were pressing us too much to allow that and (b) I don't think it's in our DNA to stop attacking.

I think the players were professional and efficient but I genuinely can't see how Bournemouth have a case against us for time wasting.

 

[Beanstalk]

Broadly the difference is this...

Opposition does it: outrageous time-wasting and the ref needs to get a grip.
We do it: shrewd game management, well done chaps.

And most fans of most clubs are exactly the same.

I'd agree but I'd also say that there is a difference between slowing things down/not hurrying and time wasting. I didn't think we were particularly bad yesterday but we definitely weren't trying to rush things when we were one up.

 

[BBassic]

I disliked our players rolling around in agony and getting up absolutely fine a few moments later. Much the same as I dislike it when the opposition do it. Exceptions given to Caicedo and Mac who took kickings and ended up being subbed off.

I find it absolutely incredible that Steele got booked for time wasting on 60 minutes when Martinez did it for 80+ (I think) before getting carded. Equally, to be wasting time at 60 minutes was a pretty poor decision from Steele.

 

[Lethargic]

This quote made me chuckle "Short of Mitoma and Mac Allister, I don't think on an individual level Brighton are that much better than us."

Really?

 

[5Ways Gull]

One bloke on that thread says we are the worst he has ever seen..

But then another bloke admits they're just as bad.

 

[US Seagull]

I think Bournemouth's problem is that they, apparently, feel bad about scoring goals:

We had chances and half chances, nothing guilt edged perhaps but enough to score. We are not clinical up top Brighton were. That's the only difference.

"Guilt edged" - FFS.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I bit my tongue on some recent threads on this because our players will use "game management" just like everyone else when the need arises.

We're not saints.

Southampton being unfairly tarnished here I think

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I bit my tongue on some recent threads on this because our players will use "game management" just like everyone else when the need arises.

We're not saints.

I dare say they'd time waste too if they ever actually had a lead to protect.

I've also tried to bite my tongue with all the sanctimony around other teams time wasting. Admittedly one or two teams take it way too far(Villa) but we, along with every team in world football, do it too. It's part of the game, always has been and always will be.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

But then another bloke admits they're just as bad.

That’s kind of the point though. Another poster points out that away teams tend to indulge in time wasting and away fans love it. Thing is those same teams play at home as well where outrage levels go off the scale when roles are reversed.

 

[brighton_tom]

Bournemouth having a go about time wasting?! Anyone who saw the game at our place will know that’s incredibly hypocritical. They took the piss from the 1st minute playing for a 0-0 draw, & unluckily for them conceded in the last minutes. So basically, f*** em!!

 

[Deadly Danson]

Although I wasn't happy about it at the time, good on the ref for booking Steele early (although the inconsistency in when refs do and don't deal with it is maddening). I don't like it when others do it and I don't like it when we do it. Apart from anything else I felt it got their fans more up for it and upped the pressure on us a bit.