[Albion] Roberto De Zerbi - JOINS AS NEW HEAD COACH (4 year contract)

[JBizzle]

But Naylor says Brighton would never put release clauses in, yet we did for Potter so go figure ?!

Nothing on our side ever confirmed a release clause though did it? Only that we had a figure in mind and that we accepted it? Either way, Chelsea paid a HUGE sum of money to get Potter

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

My understanding of the Potter situation at the time was, there was no release clause. However, Chelsea wanted him, made him an offer, he accepted, made us an offer, we accepted.

Crucially we accepted because at that point it was sensible not to dig in and let him go, and not because we were obliged by a clause in his contract.

This is how the vast majority of transfers of players and managers happen in English football

 

[dazzer6666]

My understanding of the Potter situation at the time was, there was no release clause. However, Chelsea wanted him, made him an offer, he accepted, made us an offer, we accepted.

Crucially we accepted because at that point it was sensible not to dig in and let him go, and not because we were obliged by a clause in his contract.

This is how the vast majority of transfers of players and managers happen in English football

Rather than a pure ‘buyout’, suspect his contract prevents him from walking into another similar role if he walks away from it - the compo payment means we allow him to take up another job.

 

[Hotchilidog]

The club do not do release clauses for anyone. They may take advantage of them if other clubs do though.

 

[jcdenton08]

Rather than a pure ‘buyout’, suspect his contract prevents him from walking into another similar role if he walks away from it - the compo payment means we allow him to take up another job.

Right. I mean a contract is still a contract, a manager or player can’t just give notice then go to Man City for no compensation.

 

[Swansman]

Pretty much every manager these days will have a buyout clause (but not always referred to as such) because it is the safest way to ensure you get properly paid if someone goes for him. Unless TB wants some tribunal to decide how much his manager is worth, RDZ will also have a clause.

 

[Stat Brother]

Nothing on our side ever confirmed a release clause though did it? Only that we had a figure in mind and that we accepted it? Either way, Chelsea paid a HUGE sum of money to get Potter

And Brighton paid flip all on an upgrade.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

I assume if anything it is a compensation clause, if we agree to let De Zerbi go, his new team have to pay X amount to release him from his contract. It is not that difficult a concept to understand, no?

If we say no, then it is no, whether they offer us money for it or not.

 

[pornomagboy]

Well worth a watch

 

[Sepulveda]

Well worth a watch

Can't watch it at the moment but will come back to it later, I enjoy watching these videos that show tactics as all these little puzzle pieces slotting into place, it's very aesthetically pleasing.


Being no tactics connoisseur myself though, I think a generic way to describe the describe De Zerbi-ball might be "creating a counter without losing the ball first". It would have been impossible (or much more difficult) years ago when teams didn't come pressing so high up the pitch as a unit, and preferred to keep a low block or a middle block when they didn't have the ball instead. But now that they do occupy the same areas when pressing without the ball as an old-school team would have occupied when attacking with the ball, you can basically find yourself in a counterattack transition position without ever having to first lose possession and then get it back in defense (as you'd do in the past.)

 

[timbha]

Well worth a watch

Thank you. Excellent

 

[dazzer6666]

Can't watch it at the moment but will come back to it later, I enjoy watching these videos that show tactics as all these little puzzle pieces slotting into place, it's very aesthetically pleasing.


Being no tactics connoisseur myself though, I think a generic way to describe the describe De Zerbi-ball might be "creating a counter without losing the ball first". It would have been impossible (or much more difficult) years ago when teams didn't come pressing so high up the pitch as a unit, and preferred to keep a low block or a middle block when they didn't have the ball instead. But now that they do occupy the same areas when pressing without the ball as an old-school team would have occupied when attacking with the ball, you can basically find yourself in a counterattack transition position without ever having to first lose possession and then get it back in defense (as you'd do in the past.)

DeZ seems to get analysed as much as virtually any other manager in the game (my son who is an analyst himself so follows these things more closely then me sees loads of it) - absolutely tons of stuff about his teams and tactics online.

 

[Nobby]

Well worth a watch

That is so very interesting. and some good examples used.

There is one glaring omission though - when is the defence supposed To HOOF IT

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

That is so very interesting. and some good examples used.

There is one glaring omission though - when is the defence supposed To HOOF IT

Route 1 rules , OK! Or clear it over the stand if possible!

 

[Live by the sea]

Suffice to say I suspect the buy out amount for Roberto will be even more than £20 M which would put most clubs off , except Chelsea of course !

 

[JBizzle]

Suffice to say I suspect the buy out amount for Roberto will be even more than £20 M which would put most clubs off , except Chelsea of course !

As aside, I saw it reported today that it would cost Chelsea £52m to sack Potter...

 

[The Sock of Poskett]

Excellent video - fascinating to see the RDZ style unpacked so clearly.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Well worth a watch

These are a very good video

 

[Beanstalk]

The club didn't have a release clause for Potter. The club had a long term contract with him and Chelsea wanted him to break that contract to become their new manager. Due to that the club entered into negotiations with Chelsea to allow him to be released from his contract. It resulted in a world record fee for a manager.

It's exactly the same as a player transfer. If Chelsea had said actually we will only pay £10m instead of £21m then the club would've been well in their rights to block that move. Instead they negotiated a fee that they felt was reasonable for the loss and the manager was happy to leave.

The reality of course is that Brighton had to remain quite strong to get that fee for Potter because he was well out of the door by the point Barber received LA Todd's phone call, but he wasn't immediately allowed to leave based on a set release fee in his contract.

 

[Jim in the West]

I assume if anything it is a compensation clause, if we agree to let De Zerbi go, his new team have to pay X amount to release him from his contract. It is not that difficult a concept to understand, no?

If we say no, then it is no, whether they offer us money for it or not.

I would imagine it's some formula based on unexpired contract length and salary. Did I see somewhere that De Zerbi is on £5m pa (and somewhere said "net" - which would imply a gross salary of nearly £10m pa) He has a 4 year contract, so there's approx 3.5 years left. Any "compensation" would be somewhere between circa £17m and £30m on that basis.

But why would De Zerbi want to jump ship now? He has pretty much the ideal set of players to play his way - where else is he going to find similar? In England, probably only Man City and Arsenal....further afield you could probably add Real Madrid and Barcelona, and perhaps Napoli - I'm sure there are others, and my knowledge of European football is a bit sketchy, but there aren't many.