Right to Buy - Thank you Thatcher

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BRIGHT ON Q

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
9,431
Explain this, please ...

Who, in today's market, are these people living today in rented housing who can "easily afford to buy"?

And how?

I know someone who sells cars from his council house drive,his mrs cuts hair from home and they are minted.Always going on holiday,4 kids,probably the first people in Sussex to have a plasma tv in the living room.........
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,499
I don't for one minute blame the tenants for taking up the offer, I would have done the same.

so whos fault is it? you really want to blame someone who introduced a massively popular policy, with good intentions, but no blame to those who took up the offer? seems a tad hypocritical. like so many policies, the idea is good, if there is a flaw it was in the execution, with no covenants put in place to control sales or changes, and money raised being locked up and not used to build new social housing.

also, its a myth that its denying someone a home. the person who brought it has to be living somewhere. most councils house have never been sold on. where would they move to? and what of those that stay in 3/4 bed council houses long after children have left, surely they are denying a more suitable place to someone on the waiting list?

oh, and did Labour withdraw the right to buy...?
 
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KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
21,272
Wolsingham, County Durham
Explain this, please ...

Who, in today's market, are these people living today in rented housing who can "easily afford to buy"?

And how?

My father was involved with a sussex housing association that had a tenant in an Alms house. When the tenant died, she left 1.5 million quid to the RNLI and not one penny to the housing association.

Not quite the same thing as someone living in a council house that could afford to buy, but an example of what some people will do to get something for nothing.
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne




BLOCK F

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Feb 26, 2009
6,961
Usual comments from inadequate lefties on this board,who blame Maggie for everthing that ever went wrong in their sad little lives.
For God's sake,grow up.
 


The Grockle

Formally Croydon Seagull
Sep 26, 2008
5,865
Dorset
Im staggered so much social housing was sold off on the cheap but i don't think you can underestimate the positive effect it had on individual families and run down housing estates. In the town i grew up the local council estate was awash with ford orions on bricks, screaming kids and wasn't the sort of place you would choose to live but with ownership came pride and now the area is unrecognisable.
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Explain this, please ...

Who, in today's market, are these people living today in rented housing who can "easily afford to buy"?

And how?

Oh please, what a stupid question, you think that all people who live in council houses are all paupers ? I suppose the new cars outside their homes belong to their care workers.

There are plenty of people who deserve a council house who can't get one because of people who like paying a low rent and getting somebody else to pay for their repairs.
 






Arthur

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Jul 8, 2003
8,926
Buxted Harbour
Usual comments from inadequate lefties on this board,who blame Maggie for everthing that ever went wrong in their sad little lives.
For God's sake,grow up.

Couldn't agree more.

Instead of blaming someone who hasn't been in power for more than 20 years try working a little harder. Just an idea like!
 


Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
24,760
Sussex
People in council houses may not be so poor anymore but you cant escape the snotty nosed kids and youths hanging about the street corners. If you choose to bring up kids on a council house then there is a bloody high chance they will end up pregnant, prison, under achieving , drugs etc. Not always the case but odds do go up.

Snotty ....maybe
 






PILTDOWN MAN

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NSC Patron
Sep 15, 2004
20,549
Hurst Green
Im staggered so much social housing was sold off on the cheap but i don't think you can underestimate the positive effect it had on individual families and run down housing estates. In the town i grew up the local council estate was awash with ford orions on bricks, screaming kids and wasn't the sort of place you would choose to live but with ownership came pride and now the area is unrecognisable.

That's the main point I believe. Its easy to look at isolated incidents within the South but the vast majority of council housing stock was in the Midlands and the North. By giving the tenants the chance of owning their home it pushed up the profile of the areas. Also a lot of houses built in the 50's 60's were built using substandard materials (mainly in the Midlands). To rectify these problems was going to cost the government/US a hell of a lot of money which at the time we didn't have, WHY? Because the last government had bankrupt the country. Sounds familiar.

Genius master stroke if you ask me.
 


Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,401
Brighton
Council homes were intended for those who could not afford to buy,By letting them be sold for a pittance the then government stole from the future.And many people saving hard for their own homes were gobsmacked to see people who could not initially afford to buy being "given" houses that they were lucky to rent in the first place whilst they had to pay the prevailing market price.

Nail. Head.
 




The Grockle

Formally Croydon Seagull
Sep 26, 2008
5,865
Dorset
Oh please, what a stupid question, you think that all people who live in council houses are all paupers ? I suppose the new cars outside their homes belong to their care workers.

There are plenty of people who deserve a council house who can't get one because of people who like paying a low rent and getting somebody else to pay for their repairs.

a colleague of mine earns about 25 to 30k a year and his girlfriend runs a playgroup from a low cost rented council house, their houshold income is well in ecess of 50k. this is no scam they simply tranfered the property from a family member. they pay less for a four bedroom house than i do for a pokey bedsit in Croydon.
 


The Grockle

Formally Croydon Seagull
Sep 26, 2008
5,865
Dorset


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,499






pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,735
West, West, West Sussex
In addition a lot of people also live in council houses that are far bigger than they need.

Don't get me started on that one. My parents had a three bedroom semi council house and (long story short) us kids moved out, mum died so dad was left in this large house on his own.

He asked the council to move him to a 2 bedroom flat/house as the house was too big for him and they refused to give him one. They said the only alterntive property he could have was a one bedroom flat. He used to do a lot of charity work for the RAFA and wanted an office/spare room so his grandchildren could stay over but the council simply refused his 2 bedroom request.

Outcome? He stayed put in a large 3 bedroom semi on his own. Utterly ridiculous.
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
a colleague of mine earns about 25 to 30k a year and his girlfriend runs a playgroup from a low cost rented council house, their houshold income is well in ecess of 50k. this is no scam they simply tranfered the property from a family member. they pay less for a four bedroom house than i do for a pokey bedsit in Croydon.

Thank you, that's exactly my point. Not all council tenants have much of an income but on the other hand there are those that do as you have pointed out.I had an uncle who lived with his mother until she died in a three bedroomed council house. He continued to live there for a further twenty years until he died. He didn't need the space but he felt it was his right to stay there. The fact that a family could have made far better use of it didn't concern him at all. I know that he was and still is by no means the only person who was or has that view.

The fact that Council Houses are now being sold for a hell of a lot more than the knock down prices they originally cost is a disgrace, there should be a pay back that takes a percentage of any profit made on the sale of an ex council house.
 


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