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Re: Closure of NSC ticket exchange



ads52

Member
Jul 31, 2011
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I also have 2 tickets in the North Stand Available for most Saturday games as I work so feel free to PM me with any requests
 






pornomagboy

wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
May 16, 2006
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Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Surely illegal is illegal. I guess it's treated as returned and re-sold? ???

The law says ticket resale is illegal without the permission of the match organiser.

Clearly viagogo have done a deal to get the permission.
 




sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
7,840
Worthing
The law says ticket resale is illegal without the permission of the match organiser.

Clearly viagogo have done a deal to get the permission.

Yes I have now read the message in the community section and see that this is the case.

Having looked at other tickets on there, it seems that it's ok also to sell at above the face value on viagogo. Isn't that illegal, authorised or not? If not, it should be!

The whole thing is heading the wrong way, though I understand why some sort of control is needed. It just (as always) penalises those of us who are decent law abiding citizens because of the fear of the occasional problem. As long as the original purchaser remains responsible if they sell to someone who is banned, I don't see the problem, as most of us are reasonably careful when selling on our tickets when we can't use them ourselves.

At least I haven't actually needed to use the exchange to offload tickets recently, as I know enough people who will take them off my hands on the odd occasion, and it won't stop that continuing for those of us lucky enough to have such contacts.
 


Monsieur Le Plonk

Lethargy in motion
Apr 22, 2009
1,858
By a lake
There are quite a few of us that used to use the ticket exchange and get the purchaser to donate the proceeds to REMF. Shame if REMF loses out.
Anyone know if exchanging tickets with the proceeds going to charitable causes comes under the same legal constraints or can we maybe, in future, exchange our tickets via NSC in a REMF section?
 


Hatterlovesbrighton

something clever
Jul 28, 2003
4,543
Not Luton! Thank God
Yes I have now read the message in the community section and see that this is the case.

Having looked at other tickets on there, it seems that it's ok also to sell at above the face value on viagogo. Isn't that illegal, authorised or not? If not, it should be!

The whole thing is heading the wrong way, though I understand why some sort of control is needed. It just (as always) penalises those of us who are decent law abiding citizens because of the fear of the occasional problem. As long as the original purchaser remains responsible if they sell to someone who is banned, I don't see the problem, as most of us are reasonably careful when selling on our tickets when we can't use them ourselves.

At least I haven't actually needed to use the exchange to offload tickets recently, as I know enough people who will take them off my hands on the odd occasion, and it won't stop that continuing for those of us lucky enough to have such contacts.

Not illegal. The regulations do say that you have state the face value of the ticket.

If clubs can authorise Viagogo to resell tickets, why can't the club authorise NSC to sell tickets?
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Not illegal. The regulations do say that you have state the face value of the ticket.

If clubs can authorise Viagogo to resell tickets, why can't the club authorise NSC to sell tickets?

They can authorise NSC. They won't though because they make more money out of their own ticket exchange scheme.
 


There are quite a few of us that used to use the ticket exchange and get the purchaser to donate the proceeds to REMF. Shame if REMF loses out.
Anyone know if exchanging tickets with the proceeds going to charitable causes comes under the same legal constraints or can we maybe, in future, exchange our tickets via NSC in a REMF section?
"Giving a ticket to a person who agrees to pay for some other goods or services or offering to do so" is just as illegal as a straightforward sale for cash.
 






Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
30,173
Bexhill-on-Sea
Surely I could just upgrade his ticket and take that guy who lumped Kirkland the other week?

Anybody could give their ticket/smartcard to anybody and if that person is banned and is not spotted then they will gain entry - how do you think the Leeds thug got into the game he did
 


Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
30,173
Bexhill-on-Sea
They can authorise NSC. They won't though because they make more money out of their own ticket exchange scheme.

They only make money on the official scheme when I match is sold out - 3-4 times a season at most so I can't see them making much money at all under the scheme that been introduced
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,045
The arse end of Hangleton
Personally, I'm more than happy to break this ridiculous law.
 




rool

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2003
6,031
They only make money on the official scheme when I match is sold out - 3-4 times a season at most so I can't see them making much money at all under the scheme that been introduced

That also means that 'customers' who place their tickets on the exchange will only get any money back 3 - 4 times a season. The club have already had their money so it doesn't really effect them.

The law's the law I suppose but the club appears to prefer empty seats rather than endorsing an exchange like this.
 


El Sid

Well-known member
May 10, 2012
3,806
West Sussex
"Giving a ticket to a person who agrees to pay for some other goods or services or offering to do so" is just as illegal as a straightforward sale for cash.

Is a charitable donation the same as "some other goods or services"?

In this instance there is no gain or benefit to the ticket seller.
 


Driver8

On the road...
NSC Patron
Jul 31, 2005
15,986
North Wales
Re: Closure of NSC ticket exchange

I'll just have to email or pm posters who have previously taken my tickets when I cannot attend, usually evening games. If anyone else would like to be included in such mailings please pm me.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,045
The arse end of Hangleton
@Bozza - does this also cover the "Tickets Wanted" section as surely you're not then offering tickets for sale ?

FAO Season Ticket holders - I can only do midweek evening matches so if you want to sell one of these tickets take a note of my username now or use my mobile 07971 169553.
 






Premiership Dream

New member
Nov 16, 2011
258
Anybody could give their ticket/smartcard to anybody and if that person is banned and is not spotted then they will gain entry - how do you think the Leeds thug got into the game he did

So if the club is worried about that why do they not ask the name of the person taking a child's season ticket when u pay them to upgrade it ???? As the person could be banned
 


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