[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[dsr-burnley]

I'm glad I don't work for you. You default to 'the other people are all scroungers swinging the lead etc'.

I can remember the 80s when I had three operations in 18 months and ended up with a written warning from work. That caused me more stress, and my work suffered. All time off was covered by sick notes, but procedure had to take place!

Farage has said women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth.

You're making things up. I don't default to thinking that all sick people are scroungers. You're an example of one who wasn't. But your example doesn't prove that there aren't any scroungers.

I worked with someone who played darts every Thursday, and was off sick every Friday. And as per my original post, there were people in the office who would not have been chuffed if he had been given 5 days' pay for a four day week, and few tears were shed when he left.

 

[darkwolf666]

You're making things up. I don't default to thinking that all sick people are scroungers. You're an example of one who wasn't. But your example doesn't prove that there aren't any scroungers.

I worked with someone who played darts every Thursday, and was off sick every Friday. And as per my original post, there were people in the office who would not have been chuffed if he had been given 5 days' pay for a four day week, and few tears were shed when he left.

So here we are again, because of a few anecdotal examples of someone playing the system no workers should have additional rights!

Haven't we been here before, with leaving the ECHR, because a few people have played the system too?

Because a few "get away with it" punish everyone...

 

[Chicken Run]

Farage has said women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth.

This is truly awful and anyone thinking of voting for Farage should be ashamed of themselves, i just wondered if you could share a link to this as i’ve struggled to find it? Thanks in advance

 

[rogersix]

Exactly. Someone on here willing to think. Anecdotal evidence of what some voters are thinking is not easily sourced.

who are you?

 

[darkwolf666]

This is truly awful and anyone thinking of voting for Farage should be ashamed of themselves, i just wondered if you could share a link to this as i’ve struggled to find it? Thanks in advance

I have just looked through Reform's "contract with you" and can find no mention of this policy!

Mind you, having read this document, I do now need to go and wash my eyes, as they appear to be full of shit...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This is truly awful and anyone thinking of voting for Farage should be ashamed of themselves, i just wondered if you could share a link to this as i’ve struggled to find it? Thanks in advance

The Employment Rights Bill mentions maternity leave, bereavement leave etc. Farage and his four MPs voted against it.

Employment Rights Bill: factsheets

Further details on the measures included within the Employment Rights Bill.

www.gov.uk

A clip where Clacton constituents are told of his voting record on employment rights.

Nigel Farage's Voters Are Shocked At His Opposition To Better Workers' Rights

Reform UK's MPs all voted against Labour's employment rights bill.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[Chicken Run]

The Employment Rights Bill mentions maternity leave, bereavement leave etc. Farage and his four MPs voted against it.

Employment Rights Bill: factsheets

Further details on the measures included within the Employment Rights Bill.

www.gov.uk

A clip where Clacton constituents are told of his voting record on employment rights.

Nigel Farage's Voters Are Shocked At His Opposition To Better Workers' Rights

Reform UK's MPs all voted against Labour's employment rights bill.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Truly awful Did he actually say “women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth” as i want to share this with others or is it implied amongst many other workers rights as an example through his past voting on bills within the grand scheme?

 

[WATFORD zero]

You're making things up. I don't default to thinking that all sick people are scroungers. You're an example of one who wasn't. But your example doesn't prove that there aren't any scroungers.

I worked with someone who played darts every Thursday, and was off sick every Friday. And as per my original post, there were people in the office who would not have been chuffed if he had been given 5 days' pay for a four day week, and few tears were shed when he left.

Have you considered that with all these experiences of 'people cheating the system' that you seem to come across regularly, your situation may be improved more by changing your circle of friends and acquaintances rather than voting for Farage and co

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Truly awful Did he actually say “women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth” as i want to share this with others or is it implied amongst many other workers rights as an example through his past voting on bills within the grand scheme?

You can see his opinion on worker’s rights or indeed human rights anywhere. He wants to leave the ECHR. Share away.

 

[Chicken Run]

You can see his opinion on worker’s rights or indeed human rights anywhere. He wants to leave the ECHR. Share away.

He is a horrible slippery **** but all I want to know is did he actually say “women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth” ?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He is a horrible slippery **** but all I want to know is did he actually say “women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth” ?

I don’t have the full Hansard record.
When Parliament is debating these bills, any MP can ask for amendments He didn’t.
He could have abstained but he voted against it.

 

[Bodian]

Exactly. Someone on here willing to think. Anecdotal evidence of what some voters are thinking is not easily sourced.

So - just how many people do you know have said this to you?

For example, people with no intention of taking sick days went they aren't ill are not necessarily in favour of sick pay from day 1.

Are these folk you've been chatting to aware that this will also apply to them? That is - when they are sick, they won't get sick pay from day 1. Won't this just mean they'll come in because otherwise they'll lose pay - and thereby spread whatever it is they have around. Especially as they won't be able to WFH instead - because Farage will also be stopping that. Has the covid experience taught nothing?

And I think your mates may be in the minority anyway - even amongst Reform voters.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/04/10/reform-uk-are-no-friend-of-the-workers-heres-why/

 

[Chicken Run]

I don’t have the full Hansard record.
When Parliament is debating these bills, any MP can ask for amendments He didn’t.
He could have abstained but he voted against it.

So I guess like me your struggling to find a link where he either suggests or said “women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth”

Oh well

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

So I guess like me your struggling to find a link where he either suggests or said “women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth”

Oh well

The implication is that he voted against a Bill that would ensure that bereavement leave was given in such a case, so whilst he ‘may not’ have said it he certainly voted against it. Either way he doesn’t believe women should get bereavement leave in such cases, he’s a slippery **** and loves implication over actually coming out and saying it. Only the terminally stupid would vote for this little shit.

 

[Berty23]

The implication is that he voted against a Bill that would ensure that bereavement leave was given in such a case, so whilst he ‘may not’ have said it he certainly voted against it. Either way he doesn’t believe women should get bereavement leave in such cases, he’s a slippery **** and loves implication over actually coming out and saying it. Only the terminally stupid would vote for this little shit.

There is a saying I use with the kids. “Actions speak louder than words”

 

[Chicken Run]

The implication is that he voted against a Bill that would ensure that bereavement leave was given in such a case, so whilst he ‘may not’ have said it he certainly voted against it. Either way he doesn’t believe women should get bereavement leave in such cases, he’s a slippery **** and loves implication over actually coming out and saying it. Only the terminally stupid would vote for this little shit.

Oh so you’re saying he may not have said it? I’m confused Thunderbird suggested he did that was all, and i politely enquired as to where he said it.

I’m assuming then when she said and I quote “Farage has said women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth” He may in fact have not actually said it?

As i said he’s a slippery **** but it doesn’t help if posters post stuff that isn’t true as i’m more than certain in the other direction the attack dogs would be all over certain posters for fake news.

 

[Bodian]

Oh so you’re saying he may not have said it? I’m confused Thunderbird suggested he did that was all, and i politely enquired as to where he said it.

I’m assuming then when she said and I quote “Farage has said women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birth” He may in fact have not actually said it?

As i said he’s a slippery **** but it doesn’t help if posters post stuff that isn’t true as i’m more than certain in the other direction the attack dogs would be all over certain posters for fake news.

Was that deliberate??

 

[Chicken Run]

Was that deliberate??

No

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

O

We won the World Cup. ?

Is this thread just one long "its coming home"

 

[dsr-burnley]

So here we are again, because of a few anecdotal examples of someone playing the system no workers should have additional rights!

Haven't we been here before, with leaving the ECHR, because a few people have played the system too?

Because a few "get away with it" punish everyone...

What I said was that it's wrong to assume that all workers agree with Labour's additional workers' rights pack package, and gave reasons why not.

That can't be taken to mean that no workers should have additional rights if you had read the thread. I think there is a tendency sometimes to see a post about Farage that isn't 1000% abusive and to assume it needs a strong reply. Farage isn't 100% bad any more than Starmer or Badenoch or Corbyn or Johnson were.