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[Albion] Lee Mason at it again

should welbeck have had a penalty?

  • penalty

  • no penalty


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One Teddy Maybank

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Aug 4, 2006
22,214
Worthing
It was a blatant penalty. Everyone in the BT studio said the same apart from former ref Peter Walton. He said it was a foul but not a clear enough error for VAR to intervene. BS. He was screamed at for about 5 minutes . Referees are a strange breed. Will be interested to see what Dermot Gallagher has to say about it on Monday.
Is that Walton who awarded a penalty to Southampton when the foul was 3 yards outside the penalty area?

Resulted in Tanno being sent off.

Another shocking ex referee who’s stealing a living…..
 


















Ooh it’s a corner

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Aug 28, 2016
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Nr. Coventry
Of course he wasn't perfect - Brighton didnt win the game...
First of all: I think the ref was excellent tonight, best performer on the pitch. Should get mentioned.

That VAR call however... don't understand it. Clear penalty unless I'm missing something in the relation between playing the advantage and VAR calls.
I actually assumed your first paragraph was said in jest Swanny- it was, Shirley. The pen is the clearest exhibit of a blatant error but he was far too lenient on challenges too. A later poster suggested he avoided decisions and I would agree. He certainly wasn’t excellent!
 




Jimmy Grimble

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Not one to go in on refs but that is astonishingly bad. Top 5 worst I’ve seen easily.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
Penalty couldn't have been more obvious.
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
As I said on another thread, it does depend which replays they’re shown. Not particularly keen to defend Lee Mason given his general hopelessness but there was only one angle that made it absolutely obvious Welbeck was fouled. Watching abroad, that was the last one of about 6 shown on the live broadcast (which they’re not watching). It’s just possible he wasn’t shown it. Would be interesting to know.
 




kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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As I said on another thread, it does depend which replays they’re shown. Not particularly keen to defend Lee Mason given his general hopelessness but there was only one angle that made it absolutely obvious Welbeck was fouled. Watching abroad, that was the last one of about 6 shown on the live broadcast (which they’re not watching). It’s just possible he wasn’t shown it. Would be interesting to know.
No excuse. If the angle wasn't clear enough for him to make a decision, he should've sent the ref to the monitor.
 


mreprice

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Sep 12, 2010
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Sydney, Australia
Watching abroad most angles didn't show it and I missed seeing it the only time it was shown because I was looking at the wrong leg. It seemed like a very rushed decision too. I suspect he hasn't been shown a great angle and just missed seeing it. Because it is a 100% penalty.
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
No excuse. If the angle wasn't clear enough for him to make a decision, he should've sent the ref to the monitor.
Not sure VAR can do that though. If the angle’s not clear enough, wasting more time by sending the ref to look at an inconclusive replay would go down like a lead balloon. There really was only one angle that made the mistake ‘clear and obvious’. Even then, as a neutral, you might wonder whether Welbeck made a meal of the contact. I think it was a penalty all day long but can see how they might have missed it.
 




stss30

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Apr 24, 2008
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We’d have won the game if this blatant penalty was given imo - shocking that even with technology they can’t get these clear cut decisions right.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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This is the kind of challenge that I wish wasn't a penalty but these are given all the time. I wonder if his going down easily (and fairly theatrically) affected the refs decision.
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
15,238
It was a blatant penalty. Everyone in the BT studio said the same apart from former ref Peter Walton. He said it was a foul but not a clear enough error for VAR to intervene. BS. He was screamed at for about 5 minutes . Referees are a strange breed. Will be interested to see what Dermot Gallagher has to say about it on Monday.
Good enough for me, then - penalty.

If not, then it just reaffirms that VAR and its 'clear and obvious errors' thing is absolute nonsense. Mind you, without it we hadn't been given a penalty, either, so the ref can do one too!
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Watching abroad most angles didn't show it and I missed seeing it the only time it was shown because I was looking at the wrong leg. It seemed like a very rushed decision too. I suspect he hasn't been shown a great angle and just missed seeing it. Because it is a 100% penalty.
A rushed VAR decision? What a nicely novelty! Normally they take about five minutes 🤣
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
This is the kind of challenge that I wish wasn't a penalty but these are given all the time. I wonder if his going down easily (and fairly theatrically) affected the refs decision.
You’re running and someone comes from the side, standing on your boot, so you decide to fall theatrically? Do you really think in that split atom of a second, you’ll make it look dramatic?
 




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