[Football] If Palace can't play in the Europa League

[Bob!]

They'll be nil for the Europa League, we will not be in that competition next season under any circumstances

Unless Palace are excluded from Europe
AND City get a point deduction for last season

 

[Bodian]

The deadline does seem too early for any club to realistically know if making such a change is really needed.

But I guess that part of the purpose of this rule is to stop people controlling too many clubs in the first place?

 

[Mackenzie]

Sensing embers of hope here.

STOP IT!

This is Crystal Palace. The club that repeatedly begins every season like a pub team and somehow, generally through the appointment of a fireman manager, drags itself up to a routine 12th-placed finish.

There is huge amounts of comedy here, primarily due to huge amounts of ineptitude in Croydon.

There is neither hope nor expectation that we need to be checking our passport expiration dates.

Quite right.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Lock thread.

 

[Bodian]

Unless Palace are excluded from Europe
AND City get a point deduction for last season

OR the change in the Forest owner's holdings is deemed to be 'after the deadline'??!

 

[JBizzle]

Playing devils advocate here but Brighton got knocked out of the FA Cup on the 29th March. That's well after the deadline. Don't think TB administered his shares in USG either.

The deadline does seem too early for any club to realistically know if making such a change is really needed.

That's kinda my point though. I don't blame them for missing the deadline, but I do blame them for waiting until 2 weeks AFTER they qualified to start making representations to UEFA

 

[Wozza]

 

[BBassic]

Good to see they aren't overreacting.

 

[BadFish]

Good to see they aren't overreacting.

About time, its been a good 15 years since they liquidated the club.

 

[Stato]

Sensing embers of hope here.

STOP IT!

This is Crystal Palace. The club that repeatedly begins every season like a pub team and somehow, generally through the appointment of a fireman manager, drags itself up to a routine 12th-placed finish.

There is huge amounts of comedy here, primarily due to huge amounts of ineptitude in Croydon.

There is neither hope nor expectation that we need to be checking our passport expiration dates.

Exactly this.

This is nothing to do with Brighton having any chance of getting the European spot that our eighth place would have warranted had the FA Cup final officials done their jobs properly. It has everything to do with us smugly enjoying the comparison between our club - doing everything the right way, run by serious people who know what they are doing; and theirs - being run by a bunch of cats dressed as clowns tied up in a bag.

I had a little schadenfreude peek at their forum and some of the meltdowns are very amusing. We all know that they'll scrape through in the end, we just need to pop the corn, sit back and enjoy the farce that occurs every time their club has to engage with reality.

It seems to me that the only likelihood that appears fairly concrete is that no concrete will be paid for by John Textor. The row and the solution that they find seems very likely to be waved as another reason why "Parish's Folly" will be delayed for another decade or so. That all night session at Harveys hasn't been arranged yet again.

 

[A1X]

Unless Palace are excluded from Europe
AND City get a point deduction for last season

One flying pig is enough to hope for

This would be some sort of Red Arrows-esque display of them

 

[Jimmy Come Lately]

I think I read somewhere in amongst this biblical FARCE they've muddled their way into, that Textor had offered to sell his shares to his fellow directors at 25% below market value. Maybe Textor will have to take a bigger haircut than that, something he is doubtless loathe to do. What does he care whether Palace are in Europe or not ?

I think the one ray of hope for the Palace fans is that the other directors may be more willing to increase their holdings now that there's the prospect of a European campaign. And it may have increased their personal valuations of the club and what they're willing to pay.

Although as we know, a single season in the Europa league isn't hugely lucrative, and fluking an FA Cup win doesn't seem like a promising strategy for repeated qualification.

 

[Flounce]

I think this Turkish quote covers the scenario very well

When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king; the palace instead becomes a circus

 

[Clive Walker]

But I guess that part of the purpose of this rule is to stop people controlling too many clubs in the first place?

Then don't have a deadline.

 

[Clive Walker]

The issue Palace will have is that if UEFA let them in without a blind trust, all the owners who had to sell shares in their other clubs will take legal action. No way would Bloom sit down and accept it bearing in mind he had to sell his shares in USG, in time, to ensure we could play. I'm sure Villa would also be unhappy with this and the others who had to do so.

Bloom could argue by the necessity of selling his shares in USG before they won the league this year that he has incurred a significant financial loss, of which we stuck stringently by the rules. If the rules are then changed a whole legal shitstorm could occur.

Radcliffe managed it a while back and nobody complained!

 

[sparkie]

If Lyon get banned from Europe all Palace's problems go away ?

 

[drew]

I think there's a real chance. Leeds have some money behind them and I fancy them to stay up. If we accept Burnley and Sunderland will go down, who will join them? There is no obvious side.

Wolves. Just sold Cunha and likely to sell others.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Playing devils advocate here but Brighton got knocked out of the FA Cup on the 29th March. That's well after the deadline. Don't think TB administered his shares in USG either.

The deadline does seem too early for any club to realistically know if making such a change is really needed.

Tony Bloom sold some of his shares in USG so we could both take part in the Europa League. He hasn’t subsequently increased his shareholding again so we don’t have to worry about any deadlines.

Also TB has no significant control at USG as he never even sat on their board but entrusted the running of the club to the chairman Alex Muzio.

He is also only purchasing 29% of shares in Hearts to ensure he stays below the threshold in UEFAs rules. Those shares will be no voting so he’ll have no control over Hearts either.

 

[Comrade Sam]

What! It wasn’t Greece in 2004?

Apparently not

 

[Wozza]

I think I read somewhere in amongst this biblical FARCE they've muddled their way into, that Textor had offered to sell his shares to his fellow directors at 25% below market value.

I very much doubt that.

He's a businessman. A fan of money and power, not Crystal Palace.

 

[Falmer Flutter ©]

Radcliffe managed it a while back and nobody complained!

For both Manchester clubs last season, the shares of Nice and Girona were placed in blind trusts.