portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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4 pages and no mention of Palace in a story about Croydon? Surely it's THEIR fault? Who's leading this investigation?
It's comments like that...that clearly show how pathetic our society has become. Every criminal now has a sob story of how hard done by they are, it's societies fault, I've got this or that condition that suddenly only appeared in the last 15 years, my mum doesn't love me, blah blah fvcking blah. Get in the real world mate....that attitudes like yours have created a disgusting mitigation by scum like her are no longer responsible for their actions and it would be a travesty to even think about punishing them. Go and ask the old lady she punched in the face or the old lady's family if they give a flying fvck about any of your 'bigger picture'. Bottom line the horrible little shit punched an old lady in the face for no reason other than wanting to get home and asking 2 scumbags refusing to pay their fare to stop causing the delay to the bus. Would you care about the 'bigger picture' if she punched your mother?
4 pages and no mention of Palace in a story about Croydon? Surely it's THEIR fault? Who's leading this investigation?
That shes never known an ounce of discipline in her life would be the reason , and i can also guarantee that had the old girl been black it wouldnt have happened.[/QUOTE
You can also add that had this been a white youth punching a black pensioner it would have certainly been investigated as a racial incident whatever the circumstances. I wonder if this investigation was.
Most irrelevant comment of the day I reckon.
Your continuous argument of some sort of 'bigger picture' and now 'not knowing her history'. What you don't seem to get about my point is that the victim in this case has no bearing on her background or history or your 'bigger picture'!!!! So why should it be an excuse for her behaviour? And your response of me knowing nothing of your family or mother is again something my argument is absolutely nothing to do with it and you know it. I've clearly asked if you would feel the same about the offender if it were your mother. Don't now jump on some I'm offended band wagon, it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask in a debate like this!
That shes never known an ounce of discipline in her life would be the reason , and i can also guarantee that had the old girl been black it wouldnt have happened.[/QUOTE
You can also add that had this been a white youth punching a black pensioner it would have certainly been investigated as a racial incident whatever the circumstances. I wonder if this investigation was.
Hi Bushy/Alfred
No, it certainly wouldnt have been investigated as a racial incident, unless the attack was specifically racial. This was a nasty little selfish girl. Nothing racist about her actions. Just a nasty little girl, but of course, you know that.
To try and push the fantasy that just by assaulting somebody of a different race makes the attack racist is silly. As you know.
Your continuous argument of some sort of 'bigger picture' and now 'not knowing her history'. What you don't seem to get about my point is that the victim in this case has no bearing on her background or history or your 'bigger picture'!!!! So why should it be an excuse for her behaviour? And your response of me knowing nothing of your family or mother is again something my argument is absolutely nothing to do with it and you know it. I've clearly asked if you would feel the same about the offender if it were your mother. Don't now jump on some I'm offended band wagon, it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask in a debate like this!
Most irrelevant comment of the day I reckon.
Absolutely this.Punishing the girl, working to find a solution to her behavioural problems, and taking the victim's feelings and needs into consideration are not all mutually exclusive objectives.
Yawn.
The armed forces are a decent profession. Why fill it with sh*t and the dregs of society?
I am astonished at the number of people prepared to make sweeping assumptions about someone that they know almost nothing about.
And i see a number of people like yourself, very quick to defend her.
As ive asked already on here whats your wonderful suggestion ? They have already established the girl isn't mentally ill, so given that there is NO excuse is there ?
It has nothing to do with knowing her or not.
Are judges supposed to not sentence people on the basis that they " don't know them " ? WTF
... She could be misunderstood, or she could be Beelzebub incarnate.
or she could a bit thuggish? she didn't want to pay her fare then hit an old lady for no reason. there's no being misunderstood in that.