Fund run by David Cameron’s father avoided paying tax in Britain (Panama leaks)

[glasfryn]

DAVE MAKING OUT HIS FAMILY HAS MADE NOTHING OUT OF THIS.
so where has the money gone, and why did they use that particular bank,why not barclays or god forbid HSBC and when exactly did the money move to somewhere else.
lets hope for his sake that he is not telling porkies

 

[fat old seagull]

DAVE MAKING OUT HIS FAMILY HAS MADE NOTHING OUT OF THIS.
so where has the money gone, and why did they use that particular bank,why not barclays or god forbid HSBC and when exactly did the money move to somewhere else.
lets hope for his sake that he is not telling porkies!

I'm sure you really mean lets hope he is!

 

[Hampster Gull]

Cameron Senior should resign

 

[W.C.]

This is true, and variously throughout the day they led with whatever was the latest breaking news from the leak, including the Icelandic president and banks linked to North Korea. This morning they have been leading on the links to the Assad family. If the Snowden leaks are anything to go by, The Guardian will continue to trawl through, consider implications and report what they find over the next week or two, regardless of who it upsets.

Exactly, can't accept there has been any undue focus on any connection Cameron has had to the story and anyway, he is our prime minister.

 

[glasfryn]

Exactly, can't accept there has been any undue focus on any connection Cameron has had to the story and anyway, he is our prime minister.

his father set up a company to rob the British public of taxes that are rightfully yours mine and everyone elses in this country and if you believe that dave has not made anything out of this you live in cloud cuckoo land.
there will be more to come I am sure.
bye dave

 

[Buzzer]

his father set up a company to rob the British public of taxes that are rightfully yours mine and everyone elses in this country and if you believe that dave has not made anything out of this you live in cloud cuckoo land.
there will be more to come I am sure.
bye dave

It was certainly unethical but it was tax avoidance, pure and simple, it wasn't tax evasion. No-one robbed anything from anyone.

If we use your logic then the way Tony Benn arranged his tax affairs and avoided millions in inheritance tax was also robbery.

 

[glasfryn]

It was certainly unethical but it was tax avoidance, pure and simple, it wasn't tax evasion. No-one robbed anything from anyone.

If we use your logic then the way Tony Benn arranged his tax affairs and avoided millions in inheritance tax was also robbery.

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and if he had been found out at the time I would be saying exactly the same, and as I said before its not political, they are all at it avoidance, evation, its still less money being spent on things that matter
the point is that a company was set up to help people Avoid/evade paying tax, Ian Cameron made money from this, and to say that his family did not profit from this is ludicrous.

 

[Buzzer]

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and if he had been found out at the time I would be saying exactly the same, and as I said before its not political, they are all at it avoidance, evation, its still less money being spent on things that matter
the point is that a company was set up to help people Avoid/evade paying tax, Ian Cameron made money from this, and to say that his family did not profit from this is ludicrous.

Of course his family benefited, I don't dispute that. I was commenting on your histrionic post about tax avoidance being robbery. It's nothing of the sort and therefore it was never your/our money. All taxpayers have the right to minimise their tax liabilities under the law. There's no point getting stressed about it because, given the chance, most people do it.

 

[Seagull27]

It was certainly unethical but it was tax avoidance, pure and simple, it wasn't tax evasion. No-one robbed anything from anyone.

If we use your logic then the way Tony Benn arranged his tax affairs and avoided millions in inheritance tax was also robbery.

It doesn't look great though when Cameron himself has previously said such arrangements are 'morally wrong'. At the very least he should come out and say the same about his father's company, and publish his tax return to prove that he doesn't benefit from it.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jun/20/jimmy-carr-tax-david-cameron

 

[Buzzer]

It doesn't look great though when Cameron himself has previously said such arrangements are 'morally wrong'. At the very least he should come out and say the same about his father's company, and publish his tax return to prove that he doesn't benefit from it.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jun/20/jimmy-carr-tax-david-cameron

I completely agree with you. We can't necessarily hold Cameron responsible for his father's tax affairs though, I think that's unfair. Where it is perfectly fair is when politicians do it themselves. If they are that selfish to aggressively look to avoid tax it brings into question their suitability to represent other people's best interests.

Incidentally, the Guardian are complete hypocrites to try to have a go at anyone looking to avoid tax through offshore accounts. Their own tax situation is very murky and involves Cayman Island bank accounts and Luxembourg companies.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

squeaky clean so yes
when I applied to become a prison officer they went back 4 generations, if its good enough for me its good enough for him

And if they had done a similar test he would have passed. I would have thought someone who worked in the prison system would appreciate and respect the innocent until proved guilty principle.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Nice shuffling of my suggestions there, you should be in politics. I mentioned it likely you were a Tory, as you were defended him so rigorously. I didn't say 'a Cameron Supporting Tory'. I would now though suggest you are an 'out of Europe Tory'. Once again twisting my statement I never mentioned any wars, my dislike of Tony B Liar is because he suggests he's a Socialist, when in fact he fits much more comfortably into Conservative shoes. Anyway I'm sure the truth will out sometime.

If you thought I was defending him so rigorously and thought I was a Tory it follows you viewed me as a Cameron supporting Tory.

As you say the truth will out sometime.

Downing Street statements/direct quotes from Cameron

In terms of my own financial affairs, I own no shares. I have a salary as prime minister and I have some savings, which I get some interest from and I have a house, which we used to live in, which we now let out while we are living in Downing Street and that’s all I have. I have no shares, no offshore trusts, no offshore funds, nothing like that. And, so that, I think, is a very clear description.

To be clear, the prime minister, his wife and their children do not benefit from any offshore funds.

There are no offshore funds/trusts which the prime minister, Mrs Cameron or their children will benefit from in future.

Not that the truth really matters to some people, a link has been made. No doubt tax dodging pig head f**ker will be the new label with no evidence to support any of it!

 

[glasfryn]

If you thought I was defending him so rigorously and thought I was a Tory it follows you viewed me as a Cameron supporting Tory.

As you say the truth will out sometime.

Downing Street statements/direct quotes from Cameron

In terms of my own financial affairs, I own no shares. I have a salary as prime minister and I have some savings, which I get some interest from and I have a house, which we used to live in, which we now let out while we are living in Downing Street and that’s all I have. I have no shares, no offshore trusts, no offshore funds, nothing like that. And, so that, I think, is a very clear description.

To be clear, the prime minister, his wife and their children do not benefit from any offshore funds.

There are no offshore funds/trusts which the prime minister, Mrs Cameron or their children will benefit from in future.

Not that the truth really matters to some people, a link has been made. No doubt tax dodging pig head f**ker will be the new label with no evidence to support any of it!

and the past ...............................no mention

 

[glasfryn]

And if they had done a similar test he would have passed. I would have thought someone who worked in the prison system would appreciate and respect the innocent until proved guilty principle.

I do
and being prison system teaches you that some in there might be innocent of the crime they are there for but will also admit that if they were in there for all the crimes they have committed it would have incurred a longer sentence
we will see just how innocent dave is as time goes by

if you ever have seen my thread about TRUST you will know I don't trust anyone who will not answer a question directly they go round the houses and in the end you know nothing.
dave is one of those people always deflecting then shouting about how good they are and how bad others are

 

[Bold Seagull]

If you thought I was defending him so rigorously and thought I was a Tory it follows you viewed me as a Cameron supporting Tory.

As you say the truth will out sometime.

Downing Street statements/direct quotes from Cameron

In terms of my own financial affairs, I own no shares. I have a salary as prime minister and I have some savings, which I get some interest from and I have a house, which we used to live in, which we now let out while we are living in Downing Street and that’s all I have. I have no shares, no offshore trusts, no offshore funds, nothing like that. And, so that, I think, is a very clear description.

To be clear, the prime minister, his wife and their children do not benefit from any offshore funds.

There are no offshore funds/trusts which the prime minister, Mrs Cameron or their children will benefit from in future.

Not that the truth really matters to some people, a link has been made. No doubt tax dodging pig head f**ker will be the new label with no evidence to support any of it!

Oh well, if he's made a statement must be all okay then. Nothing to see here, DC said it's all okay.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

and the past .............................. .no mention .....

... I do
and being prison system teaches you that some in there might be innocent of the crime they are there for but will also admit that if they were in there for all the crimes they have committed it would have incurred a longer sentence
we will see just how innocent dave is as time goes by

if you ever have seen my thread about TRUST you will know I don't trust anyone who will not answer a question directly they go round the houses and in the end you know nothing.
dave is one of those people always deflecting then shouting about how good they are and how bad others are

Oh well, if he's made a statement must be all okay then. Nothing to see here, DC said it's all okay.

Not that the truth really matters to some people, a link has been made. No doubt tax dodging pig head f**ker will be the new label with no evidence to support any of it!

...

 

[French Seagull]

It is not David Cameron's fault for anything his Father has done, unless it has been passed on. You would not hold me responsible for anything my parents have done I guess.

1/ I wonder (out of interest) how much David is worth

2/ I wonder where his wealth has / is coming from?
- I know Sam has something like £2.2 Million in shares the interest she declares for tax,

 

[El Presidente]

tax dodging pig head f**ker

Isn't that the name of a Norwegian Black Death Metal band? I think I have their debut album somewhere.

Didn't know they'd SINGED for a new label, so thanks for the update JC!

 

[fat old seagull]

If you thought I was defending him so rigorously and thought I was a Tory it follows you viewed me as a Cameron supporting Tory.

As you say the truth will out sometime.

Downing Street statements/direct quotes from Cameron

In terms of my own financial affairs, I own no shares. I have a salary as prime minister and I have some savings, which I get some interest from and I have a house, which we used to live in, which we now let out while we are living in Downing Street and that’s all I have. I have no shares, no offshore trusts, no offshore funds, nothing like that. And, so that, I think, is a very clear description.

To be clear, the prime minister, his wife and their children do not benefit from any offshore funds.

There are no offshore funds/trusts which the prime minister, Mrs Cameron or their children will benefit from in future.

Not that the truth really matters to some people, a link has been made. No doubt tax dodging pig head f**ker will be the new label with no evidence to support any of it!

Oh yes, I'd forgotten the Pig Head episode....poor pig!

 

[Easy 10]

In its latest statement, issued on Wednesday, Downing Street told the BBC: "There are no offshore trusts or funds from which the prime minister, Mrs Cameron or their children will benefit in future."

So there ya go. They've done alright out of it previously, but now everyone keeps asking questions about it, they'll stop. K ?