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Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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“England is perhaps the only great country whose intellec*tuals are ashamed of their own nationality.In Left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution.” George Orwell.
 




brighton fella

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Mar 20, 2009
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“England is perhaps the only great country whose intellec*tuals are ashamed of their own nationality.In Left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution.” George Orwell.


and never a truer word spoken.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
17,256
“England is perhaps the only great country whose intellec*tuals are ashamed of their own nationality.In Left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution.” George Orwell.

The quote sounds good although when put in context I have to disagree with orwells idea. I think that one can be an intellectual and a patriot. It is perhaps more of its time than you give it credit for and although the EDL are a section of society that disprove it I like to think that perhaps Orwells prediction that 'Patriotism and intelligence will have to come together again' is at least beginning to come true.

Interesting that you are quoting from a text that became a rallying call and a socialist manifesto after it's publication when earlier in the thread it was being used as an insult.
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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You certainly did say that yes, but I am not sure you did remember. Anyway I apologise for calling you a racist (although i stand by my point that you should be aware of how you come across on here).

Anyway as i said I am off this thread, Interesting talking to you once again.

until the next time, Tatty Bye

This woman was called a racist.
Firoozeh Bazrafkan. Bazrafkan is also the daughter of an Iranian family, and the Islamic Republic’s subjugation of women revolts her.
"Liberal principles once held that the Danish state should only punish Bazrafkan if her words provoked violence. As it was, the court asked for no proof of actual incitement. (There was none to be had.) Instead, it acted as if criticism of religion — a system of beliefs which individuals should be free to choose and others should be free to criticise — was identical to racial prejudice, which all thinking people condemn because no one can choose his or her ethnicity. The white ‘liberal’ judges therefore ruled that the Iranian-born artist was a ‘racist’ and gave her a criminal record for condemning honour killings and clerical misogyny — proving yet again that the interests of women always come last."
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9073831/portraits-in-cowardice/
 






daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic

haha

there is no need for any ridiculous groups like that, the funniest being the new look BUF...

Brighton turned out to be a nightmare for me, you will be pleased to know, but
I must say, I felt very safe from Islamic extremists, so thanks for that.

Couple of points...I call people Hitler lickers for a reason... If you promote yourself as Das Reich, be prepared to be called a Hitler licker..I call EDL bunch of racists, because, they are a bunch of racists.

They are not tackling Militant Islam, they are attacking Islam, that has been in this countryfor quite a while, and who have fought and died for Britain.
Im not sure that chanting Allah is a paedo, or who **** is allah is particularly aimed at 'militants'

As for Brightonfellas assumption i was kicked out of, not one, but two military institutions, as 'documented on this thread' based on a throw away insult shows a level of stupidity, thats hard to measure...

Found Brighton a bit grimy btw..even somewhere like the Thistle hotel looked grim...hope you sort it out before
I retire back there ;-)
 


brighton fella

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Mar 20, 2009
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haha

there is no need for any ridiculous groups like that, the funniest being the new look BUF...

Brighton turned out to be a nightmare for me, you will be pleased to know, but
I must say, I felt very safe from Islamic extremists, so thanks for that.

Couple of points...I call people Hitler lickers for a reason... If you promote yourself as Das Reich, be prepared to be called a Hitler licker..I call EDL bunch of racists, because, they are a bunch of racists.

They are not tackling Militant Islam, they are attacking Islam, that has been in this countryfor quite a while, and who have fought and died for Britain.
Im not sure that chanting Allah is a paedo, or who **** is allah is particularly aimed at 'militants'

As for Brightonfellas assumption i was kicked out of, not one, but two military institutions, as 'documented on this thread' based on a throw away insult shows a level of stupidity, thats hard to measure...

Found Brighton a bit grimy btw..even somewhere like the Thistle hotel looked grim...hope you sort it out before
I retire back there ;-)

a throw away insult eh? i took this as face value simply by knowing your views, and lets face it views like yours where you cant see any wrong in muslims yet you can in someone else who opposes extremism isn't exactly a viewpoint the army are looking for... or atleast they shouldn't be.
 




daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
I can see wrongs in militant Islam...not Islam... the same as I saw wrongs with other such groups.
Who doesnt oppose Islamic extremism?... who doesnt oppose rightwing nazi extremists?
Right wing nazi extremist groups take the stand of, your with us or against us. Youre an extremist if you support a group, that is riddled with Nazis, and racists. A fact recognised by the bloody leader of the group.
Back to MFE....why is this Portsmouth led group, insistant on being a burden on the local council, by holding, what they know will be a march held out of petulance? Why march in a town where you are not welcome? Why not hold the march in Portsmouth? Southampton?
 
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Albumen

Don't wait for me!
Jan 19, 2010
11,495
Brighton - In your face
suppose your ideal would be for all of us to sit back whilst the extremists commit carnage on our streets, don't hit back or protest against them in fear that it will only aggrevate them even more & fuel the rest of the muslim comunitys hatred towards us. your solution is to simply let the ****ers do as they want..... pretty much as they are doing now but without any sort of backlash at all from any of us...

a bit like "tell them" that it is ok for them to set light to a poppy on remberance sunday, "tell them" that it is alright to ignore the minutes silence & disrespect our dead heroes on rememberance sunday, "tell them" that it is even accepted for them to practise sharia law over here.. and most important of all "tell them" that it is ok for them to commit another autrosity such as 7/7 & the savage killing of lee rigby over here.
good one fella I see your point :ffsparr:

Carnage. Carnage every day. Carnage all around. Thank god the EDL are here to protect me from all this carnage. Frankly, a gang of toothless neo-nazi numbskulls threatening anyone who isn't White Bri'ish aren't going to protect anyone.
 


brighton fella

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Mar 20, 2009
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I can see wrongs in militant Islam...not Islam... the same as I saw wrongs with other such groups.
Who doesnt oppose Islamic extremism?... who doesnt oppose rightwing nazi extremists?
Right wing nazi extremist groups take the stand of, your with us or against us. Youre an extremist if you support a group, that is riddled with Nazis, and racists. A fact recognised by the bloody leader of the group.
Back to MFE....why is this Portsmouth led group, insistant on being a burden on the local council, by holding, what they know will be a march held out of petulance? Why march in a town where you are not welcome? Why not hold the march in Portsmouth? Southampton?

so a group who opposes muslim extremists & supports our troops, st georges day, national pride, the ghurka regiment & who raises money for help the heroes aint welcome in brighton then, shame on brightonians if that's the case.

mfe aint a Portsmouth led group at all, no one man leads us, though a certain pompey fella is very prominent in what we do.
the original plan was to have a one off stgeorges day march in brighton then take it to other parts of the country every year, this never materialized due to the fact that the lazy no good for nothing tree shagging brigade took it upon themselves to attack innocent women & children who were present on the march..lobbing smoke bombs bricks & allsorts at them, one 9 year old girl was crying her eyes out as a bottle was lobbed and landed right on her nut leaving her very traumatised.. what started out as a family day celebration for our patron saint turned into what you see now..carnage, & all started by your disgrcefull lot. it would never had continued in brighton had your scummy disgracefull lot handled themselves in a civilized manner, or not opposed us in the first place.

im sorry but there are no other words to describe your lot other than dispicible scum. you've seen clearly "as stated above" what we stand for but you've still got the ****ing neck to oppose it.
 




brighton fella

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Mar 20, 2009
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Carnage. Carnage every day. Carnage all around. Thank god the EDL are here to protect me from all this carnage. Frankly, a gang of toothless neo-nazi numbskulls threatening anyone who isn't White Bri'ish aren't going to protect anyone.


and FRANKLY you aint worth replying to with an ignorant pig headed view like that.
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Carnage. Carnage every day. Carnage all around. Thank god the EDL are here to protect me from all this carnage. Frankly, a gang of toothless neo-nazi numbskulls threatening anyone who isn't White Bri'ish aren't going to protect anyone.
say that to the people that have had families murdered by the muslim extremists :wanker:
regards
DR
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
haha

there is no need for any ridiculous groups like that, the funniest being the new look BUF...

Brighton turned out to be a nightmare for me, you will be pleased to know, but
I must say, I felt very safe from Islamic extremists, so thanks for that.

Couple of points...I call people Hitler lickers for a reason... If you promote yourself as Das Reich, be prepared to be called a Hitler licker..I call EDL bunch of racists, because, they are a bunch of racists.

They are not tackling Militant Islam, they are attacking Islam, that has been in this countryfor quite a while, and who have fought and died for Britain.
Im not sure that chanting Allah is a paedo, or who **** is allah is particularly aimed at 'militants'

As for Brightonfellas assumption i was kicked out of, not one, but two military institutions, as 'documented on this thread' based on a throw away insult shows a level of stupidity, thats hard to measure...

Found Brighton a bit grimy btw..even somewhere like the Thistle hotel looked grim...hope you sort it out before
I retire back there ;-)
Das reich makes me a Hitler licker ...................... NICE ONE DAVE:dunce: , check out the Axis history forum :whistle:
regards
DR
 


brighton fella

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Mar 20, 2009
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so a group who opposes muslim extremists & supports our troops, st georges day, national pride, the ghurka regiment & who raises money for help the heroes aint welcome in brighton then, shame on brightonians if that's the case.

mfe aint a Portsmouth led group at all, no one man leads us, though a certain pompey fella is very prominent in what we do.
the original plan was to have a one off stgeorges day march in brighton then take it to other parts of the country every year, this never materialized due to the fact that the lazy no good for nothing tree shagging brigade took it upon themselves to attack innocent women & children who were present on the march..lobbing smoke bombs bricks & allsorts at them, one 9 year old girl was crying her eyes out as a bottle was lobbed and landed right on her nut leaving her very traumatised.. what started out as a family day celebration for our patron saint turned into what you see now..carnage, & all started by your disgrcefull lot. it would never had continued in brighton had your scummy disgracefull lot handled themselves in a civilized manner, or not opposed us in the first place.

im sorry but there are no other words to describe your lot other than dispicible scum. you've seen clearly "as stated above" what we stand for but you've still got the ****ing neck to oppose it.




plus remind me in the future never to dig deep inside my pocket the next time a bucket comes around for help the heroes charity, if a viewpoint like yours is common & widely acepted in the army then they shall never receive another penny of mine again.
 




daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
Family celebration?
Was there face painting? Bouncy castles? A celebratory atmosphere?
No. It was a march by an aggressive group, containing many EDL, and other known fascists.
And frankly, any parent, taking a child to an event that you are certain will be confrontational
is guilty of child abuse.

btw
'o a group who opposes muslim extremists & supports our troops, st georges day, national pride, the ghurka regiment & who raises money for help the heroes'

..is most of the adult population who dont feel the need to march with known, violent, racist fascists.
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Family celebration?
Was there face painting? Bouncy castles? A celebratory atmosphere?
No. It was a march by an aggressive group, containing many EDL, and other known fascists.
And frankly, any parent, taking a child to an event that you are certain will be confrontational
is guilty of child abuse.

btw
'o a group who opposes muslim extremists & supports our troops, st georges day, national pride, the ghurka regiment & who raises money for help the heroes'

..is most of the adult population who dont feel the need to march with known, violent, racist fascists.

maybe they'll vote UKIP instead, it's well known that many people DISLIKE MUSLIMS EXTREMISTS insulting the ENGLISH WAY OF LIFE in such an open way BUT DON'T WANT TO BE TAGGED WITH THE right wing element, you know that's true dave so don't come on here trying to swerve that one, AS YOU SAID EARLIER BEST STAY IN Czech republic RIGHT IN YOUR COMFORT ZONE THERE.:rolleyes:
regards
DR
 


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