[Misc] Bully XL’s

[The Clamp]

Should they be banned?

Irrelevance.

They already are. They are a pit bull breed and should not be owned by anyone.

At the very least they should have a muzzling order on them.

I have no idea why anyone other than a criminal moron would want to own such an ugly, dangerous, monster. Let alone have it in the house.

I’d like to see the breed wiped out.

What say you?

 

[The Grockle]

Not feasible? That attitude is at the heart of the problem. IMO it is ‘not feasible’ NOT to wipe this breed out. Default prison sentence of 10 years for anyone caught breeding these wild animals.

I cant see how it's feasible to euthanise up to 100k dogs, I'm not saying that it's not a sensible approach but I dont see it as being logistically possible.
If the current law is enforced numbers will plummet to zero over the next decade or so but that is dependent on the police being strong and the public reporting those who flout the new rules.

 

[birthofanorange]

We met a couple and their XL in the park recently, their dog was muzzled, well socialised and under complete control. I'd definitely question their decision to buy the dog but you couldn't describe them as being simple and they didn't match the stereotype you'd imagine.

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe the breed has a place in our country and I completely support all dogs being nurtured and the breed allowed to die out but I don't subscribe to the theory that there are no responsible owners out there.

Plenty of responsible dog owners, but no-one can be considered 'responsible' for choosing to own one of those beasts.

 

[birthofanorange]

I cant see how it's feasible to euthanise up to 100k dogs, I'm not saying that it's not a sensible approach but I dont see it as being logistically possible.
If the current law is enforced numbers will plummet to zero over the next decade or so but that is dependent on the police being strong and the public reporting those who flout the new rules.

Really? Supply me the means and I'll happily take 100 of them out of the equation.
Only need another 1000 like-minded folk and it's done.

 

[m20gull]

I think 35k have been registered so it seems like there lots that aren't registered

There will be lots unregistered and they are the problem. Many of the 35000 won't even be XLs but big dogs with responsible owners who applied for exemption so their dog does not get killed.

 

[birthofanorange]

There will be lots unregistered and they are the problem. Many of the 35000 won't even be XLs but big dogs with responsible owners who applied for exemption so their dog does not get killed.

Can responsible non-dog owners apply for exemption, so they don't get killed?

 

[A1X]

 

[vegster]

We are just going to move on to another breed which will get around the current " Dangerous Dogs Act " and the cycle will begin again. There's always going to be owners that push the envelope as regards the general rules of dog ownership and this isn't ever going to change...local FB groups are awash with posts about owners not cleaning up after their dogs, allowing them off the lead to cause mayhem or violent dogs biting placid dogs in half.

Lots of owners in denial out there too. I get fed up hearing that their dog would " lick you to death " rather than bite and " My dog is fine off the lead " until of course it then attacks or terrifies a child.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

We met a couple and their XL in the park recently, their dog was muzzled, well socialised and under complete control. I'd definitely question their decision to buy the dog but you couldn't describe them as being simple and they didn't match the stereotype you'd imagine.

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe the breed has a place in our country and I completely support all dogs being nurtured and the breed allowed to die out but I don't subscribe to the theory that there are no responsible owners out there.

I couldn’t care less if they were the King and Queen they are f***ing stupid to own a killing beast. Any sensbile person wouldn’t. It is that simple.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

We are just going to move on to another breed which will get around the current " Dangerous Dogs Act " and the cycle will begin again. There's always going to be owners that push the envelope as regards the general rules of dog ownership and this isn't ever going to change...local FB groups are awash with posts about owners not cleaning up after their dogs, allowing them off the lead to cause mayhem or violent dogs biting placid dogs in half.

Lots of owners in denial out there too. I get fed up hearing that their dog would " lick you to death " rather than bite and " My dog is fine off the lead " until of course it then attacks or terrifies a child.

There shouldn't be a banned dog list but an approved dog list. You want a breed added then it should pass some sort of test, too simple for people in charge to understand.

 

[A1X]

We are just going to move on to another breed which will get around the current " Dangerous Dogs Act " and the cycle will begin again. There's always going to be owners that push the envelope as regards the general rules of dog ownership and this isn't ever going to change...local FB groups are awash with posts about owners not cleaning up after their dogs, allowing them off the lead to cause mayhem or violent dogs biting placid dogs in half.

Lots of owners in denial out there too. I get fed up hearing that their dog would " lick you to death " rather than bite and " My dog is fine off the lead " until of course it then attacks or terrifies a child.

Perhaps the way to do it is to introduce a maximum size of dog? If an average adult cannot physically grab and restrain it then it's banned.

 

[Billy the Fish]

We met a couple and their XL in the park recently, their dog was muzzled, well socialised and under complete control. I'd definitely question their decision to buy the dog but you couldn't describe them as being simple and they didn't match the stereotype you'd imagine.

It's just a different type of ego trip.

"Dogs? Completed it, mate. I've trained this nutty bastard, razor teeth, 10 stone monster"

Well done guys but you're still twats, regardless.

 

[METALMICKY]

Is there anyway you can check whether an XL bully has been registered? I ask on the basis that we could shortly be moving to a house where immediate neighbour has one. We've spoken to them briefly and they come across as entirely decent and sensible and they have young children. However, appearences are one thing particularly if there are costs involved such as the certificate of exemption and third party liability insurance. Obviously, I could just ask them but they could lie or perhaps understandably be a bit peeved that I'm suggesting they could be irresponsible. I'm obviously concerned for the safety of my family but don't want to fall out with them before we move in.

 

[vegster]

Perhaps the way to do it is to introduce a maximum size of dog? If an average adult cannot physically grab and restrain it then it's banned.

Good idea, something about the size an average bloke could put a boot through it if needed.

 

[fly high]

I cant see how it's feasible to euthanise up to 100k dogs, I'm not saying that it's not a sensible approach but I dont see it as being logistically possible.
If the current law is enforced numbers will plummet to zero over the next decade or so but that is dependent on the police being strong and the public reporting those who flout the new rules.

Thousands of banned dogs revealed to be living in British homes with owners

Most of the dogs are in England and are pit bull terriers

www.standard.co.uk

Pitbulls were banned years ago but according to DEFRA there are nearly 3,500 still living in UK! Not holding my breath that these monster dogs will die out.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Is there anyway you can check whether an XL bully has been registered? I ask on the basis that we could shortly be moving to a house where immediate neighbour has one. We've spoken to them briefly and they come across as entirely decent and sensible and they have young children. However, appearences are one thing particularly if there are costs involved such as the certificate of exemption and third party liability insurance. Obviously, I could just ask them but they could lie or perhaps understandably be a bit peeved that I'm suggesting they could be irresponsible. I'm obviously concerned for the safety of my family but don't want to fall out with them before we move in.

Immediate neighbours have got young children and an XL bully? Sorry, but that doesn't strike me as remotely decent or sensible

 

[HangletonGull]

Danny baker in talking sense yet again, why would any want one of these is beyond me, as I say I used to know someone who had one even as pup he couldn’t control it

 

[happypig]

We are just going to move on to another breed which will get around the current " Dangerous Dogs Act " and the cycle will begin again. There's always going to be owners that push the envelope as regards the general rules of dog ownership and this isn't ever going to change...local FB groups are awash with posts about owners not cleaning up after their dogs, allowing them off the lead to cause mayhem or violent dogs biting placid dogs in half.

Lots of owners in denial out there too. I get fed up hearing that their dog would " lick you to death " rather than bite and " My dog is fine off the lead " until of course it then attacks or terrifies a child.

The one thing all owners say, without fail, when they are in court charged with having a dog dangerously out of control is "it's out of character, he's never done it before".
Every. Single. One.

Anyway, if people are allowed to have large deadly dogs, why shouldn't responsible people be similarly allowed to carry a Glock ?

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

I have witnessed a Bully XL attack another dog in the local pub, the fight got broke up pretty quickly, and the owners could hardly pull it back.
Anyways the dog was banned from the pub and that was several months ago, since then I saw where it lived recently I was shocked to see it in the front room of a house I passed recently with a child of about 8 in there with him, no way would that be happening ever. The wife said she saw the dog out for a walk last week near us without a muzzle on....

Needless to say, we have warned our daughter to cross over, just take precautions if she sees it, even climb on a car roof, I don't feckin care, just get the hell away from it.

 

[Algernon]

We English are known for our love of animals.
In respect of large powerful dogs some just can't see the wood for the trees though.

 

[vegster]

The one thing all owners say, without fail, when they are in court charged with having a dog dangerously out of control is "it's out of character, he's never done it before".
Every. Single. One.

Anyway, if people are allowed to have large deadly dogs, why shouldn't responsible people be similarly allowed to carry a Glock ?

At my allotment site along with all the other rules, there is a large sign saying " All Dogs to be Kept on a Lead " ...there was a couple that had a plot about 5 away from mine and he had a Spaniel that they would bring with them .they normally had it tied to a post while they worked. Eventually they stopped tying the dog up as he was " A good dog " ...however, the dog then would explore a larger and larger circle away the plot and became a nuisance as it was running over seeded beds ..someone complained and they were warned...

The chap came over to me and he was incredulous that someone had complained about his dog not being on a lead...I pointed out the sign by the gate which stated the dog rules and he just shook his head and said " But my dog.. ." Etc etc.