A hellish encounter

[Herr Tubthumper]

That Frankie two tribes video is playing in my head now.

 

[Wilko]

The elixir of life, mate. It has enabled me to earn my living for the past 31 years doing the thing I love most - writing and performing, and keeps me fired up with a burning sense of social justice, which means I will always stand up for what I believe and get stuck in. Simple as that.

Well said. You should be proud to stand up for what you believe in and you are very fortunate to be able to do what you love in life. Good luck to you I say.

 

[Commander]

Where did I say that I dislike you? Why do you want to take me outside? Are you going to duff me up or bore me to death with a sonnet? I just think that you are shit at poetry and am amazed that you can make a living out of efforts I would expect from an eager 12 year old. Good for you. But if you are going to insist on posting them on a public message board then I think I am within my rights to comment on how crap they are. You have afterall been self publicising this drivel for a very long time now.

Enough words. Arrange a date and do him in. I suggest 2pm, Blackpool game, Dick's Bar (there'll be lots of other 50 year old poet real ale weirdos then).

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Well said. You should be proud to stand up for what you believe in and you are very fortunate to be able to do what you love in life. Good luck to you I say.

Indeed he should, but he should also be able to take stick when someone disagrees with him. He doesn't appear to have mastered that particular skill yet

 

[Hillian1]

Can we arrange a Lokki 7 v Attila charity boxing match for REMF? Fairly certain that it would raise more than the last 10 football matches combined.

Make this happen.

I have no idea what Lokki looks like but the thought of atilla limbering up in tight leather trousers wearing a beret is something I need to see before I die.

 

[Don Quixote]

I didn't know poets still rhymed these days but there you go.

 

[Buzzer]

Make this happen.

I have no idea what Lokki looks like but the thought of atilla limbering up in tight leather trousers wearing a beret is something I need to see before I die.

 

[RupertsFlan]

Attila makes me laugh.

It's fairly typical socialist stuff.

Yet he happily comes to the AMEX which is only there because of a multi millionaire businessman. If Attila had his way Tony Bloom would have given all his money away in taxes.

I can't really get past this post - this is the problem I have personally with the sefl-publicising guff that flows from Attila's pen.

'Social Justice' - a phrase so willingly thrown around. What is social justice to you Attila? I have no time for the convenient socialists that are so prevalent today and through the ages.

You should remember that what you campaigned for like the rest of us was funded by a man who has made his money in a capitalist society. The creation of wealth would appear to offend you.

Perhaps you see yourself as the man to defend the rights of those around you, you see yourself as the shining light of reason able to educate a society that is, in your opinion, so bereft of justice.

Your predicatable, feeble scrawlings are put out there for all to read so please do not be surprised or offended when your unwilling audience feel the need to comment and respond.

What offends me more though is your apparent over-inflated opinion of your own ideas - that somehow it has fallen to you to right the wrongs.

Thankfully it hasn't.

 

[CheeseRolls]

Attila makes me laugh.

It's fairly typical socialist stuff.

Yet he happily comes to the AMEX which is only there because of a multi millionaire businessman. If Attila had his way Tony Bloom would have given all his money away in taxes.

I have heard plenty of people on here nit pick about what Attila did and didn't do during the dark days of the Albion. I do know that so much of his hard work paid dividends, in raising the profile of the Albion's plight and in taking the fight to Archer. I am not a mate of Attila or part of any clique that I am aware of, but I was there on the day we marched to Mellor and I am convinced this was a major factor in Archer's decision to relinquish control of the club.

All I can recall of your own efforts was some pathetic whining about how long it took you to get out of Bennett's Field Car park.

 

[Giraffe]

I have heard plenty of people on here nit pick about what Attila did and didn't do during the dark days of the Albion. I do know that so much of his hard work paid dividends, in raising the profile of the Albion's plight and in taking the fight to Archer. I am not a mate of Attila or part of any clique that I am aware of, but I was there on the day we marched to Mellor and I am convinced this was a major factor in Archer's decision to relinquish control of the club.

All I can recall of your own efforts was some pathetic whining about how long it took you to get out of Bennett's Field Car park.

My post is entirely directed at his political views that's all.

I entirely respect the commitment he showed during the Archer years and beyond.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

'Social Justice' - a phrase so willingly thrown around. What is social justice to you Attila? I have no time for the convenient socialists that are so prevalent today and through the ages.

You're idea of socialism seems pretty dated. I cannot speak for Attila but why do you think wealth creation offends socialists so much? You seem to have the same dumb ass blinkered view of many Tories who seem to believe that if you have a few bob in your pocket and do NOT demonstrate naked self-interest at all times you are a hypocrite. A kind of inverse snobbery if you like. We're not all against wealth creation per se but we are against dumb generalisations like yours. It's 2013.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

All I can recall of your own efforts was some pathetic whining about how long it took you to get out of Bennett's Field Car park.

This.

 

[Arthur]

Oh, and the bit of modern football I'm against is the bit where it prices loads of loyal fans out of going to games with ludicrously high ticket prices , pays ludicrous salaries to rubbish players, denies us who love to stand (legally) the opportunity to do so, introduces a huge increase in parachute payments in the top flight while simultaneously bringing in the Financial Fair Play regulations - a total contradiction in terms .......

So Brighton and Hove Albion then?

 

[Giraffe]

This.

As I said above, this is a political debate and has nothing to do with the great stuff Attila did in the 90's.

My post is entirely directed at his political views that's all.

I entirely respect the commitment he showed during the Archer years and beyond.

 

[attila]

Where did I say that I dislike you?
Well, erm, I do get that impression from just about everything you have posted about me on NSC. I am sure there are might just be one or two people who got that impression too

Why do you want to take me outside? Are you going to duff me up or bore me to death with a sonnet?
I didn't imply any form of violence. I simply suggested a meeting where you could express your feelings in person. You know, that 'real world' that people on the Right keep suggesting that people like me don't live in....
I do however think a charity boxing match for REMF is a great idea and it's a yes from me

I just think that you are shit at poetry and am amazed that you can make a living out of efforts I would expect from an eager 12 year old.
You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. As a matter of interest, the poem is going down wonderfully well elsewhere.

Good for you. But if you are going to insist on posting them on a public message board then I think I am within my rights to comment on how crap they are. You have afterall been self publicising this drivel for a very long time now.
I very rarely post on NSC compared to most people, and when I do it is nearly always about the Albion. I have sat on my hands in every other way on the Thatcher debate, which I have read with interest, but couldn't resist that particular post As regards the poems in Dick's bar, the club asked me. As a matter of interest, do you think 'Goldstone Ghosts' is 'drivel' too?

Incidentally, on the subject of REMF, I was supposed to have won a couple of tickets to an Albion game by topping the monthly league in that rather strange Argus fantasy football comp and was going to donate them. But the 'Gas has not contacted me yet - will chase them up.

 

[RupertsFlan]

You're idea of socialism seems pretty dated. I cannot speak for Attila but why do you think wealth creation offends socialists so much? You seem to have the same dumb ass blinkered view of many Tories who seem to believe that if you have a few bob in your pocket and do NOT demonstrate naked self-interest at all times you are a hypocrite. A kind of inverse snobbery if you like. We're not all against wealth creation per se but we are against dumb generalisations like yours. It's 2013.

Interestingly I can't see where in my post I have said something that could be seen as a dumb generalisation - unless of course you would dispute the fact that there are many convenient socialists prevalent today??

My point was that the phrase 'social justice' has become a de facto term used by people who seem to have a weak grasp of what it means - it has become a convenient phrase that could mean a number of different things.

Your somewhat obtuse response, apart from not making a great deal of sense, doesn't really say anything. What's 2013 got to do with anything?

 

[RupertsFlan]

I very rarely post on NSC compared to most people, and when I do it is nearly always about the Albion. I have sat on my hands in every other way on the Thatcher debate, which I have read with interest, but couldn't resist that particular post As regards the poems in Dick's bar, the club asked me. As a matter of interest, do you think 'Goldstone Ghosts' is 'drivel' too?

Incidentally, on the subject of REMF, I was supposed to have won a couple of tickets to an Albion game by topping the monthly league in that rather strange Argus fantasy football comp and was going to donate them. But the 'Gas has not contacted me yet - will chase them up.

To be fair Attila the question about Goldstone Ghosts is a little unfair. I suspect no-one would argue against the theme and the reasons that inspired you to write it.

But alas, with every creative person who shares their work with a wider audience the intent or inspiration behind the desire to write the poem is fundamentally very different to peoples critique of style and content.

I thought it was a beautiful piece of writing. I thought the effort on Thatcher was woeful. But then I may be falling into the exact same trap as I have articulated - that I personally saw my family benefit hugely from some of the things the Thatcher government did.

POlitics is so divisive for that very same reason - if people benefitted greatly from something at a personal level but were uncomfortable with more wider-reaching foriegn policy decisions for example, would they necessarily be so motivated to stand up for what is right or wrong - in their opionion.

Do you think we should arm rebels in Syria? We are detached from the situation and are reliant on what we are fed by the media - how can we debate an issue that is impossible to understand?

Just a thought.

 

[attila]

So Brighton and Hove Albion then?

Well, you've hit a nail on a head there, but not for me. I am fully aware of the contradictions but I love the Albion and always will - and I'll speak my mind about the things which make me uneasy to the custodians of the club for as long as they will listen to me (which I think got a fair old extension after the success of the real ale...) But my wife isn't renewing her season ticket: it is far too corporate for her now and she preferred Withdean (!) However, to be honest, she only started following the Albion when she met me 15 years ago - she's a Northwich lass and grew up watching the Vics and walking from one end of the ground to the other at half time. So, though I am sad, I do understand. And it means I'll be back in the North Stand next season for the first time since 1997. At last. I will be welling up....

 

[Wozza]

I do however think a charity boxing match for REMF is a great idea and it's a yes from me

And Lokki...?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What's 2013 got to do with anything?

My first sentence suggests you have a dated view of socialism. My last sentence states the current year. Try and join the dots. It really is not that diffucult surely?