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[Football] At the moment, Graham Potter is too good for Brighton. He needs better players.



Icy Gull

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Get involved... it will be ‘fun’ and you know it...


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I’m already labelled as divisive, so I’ll pass thanks :smile:
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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IF we go down due to our sh1t shot conversion, THEN my ‘anger’ will look like a mild admonishment compared to the resultant NSC outrage...


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Then we can get the popcorn out and watch months of blood NSC letting.

Tony Bloom would have to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

If the Board don’t resign, I’d be one of the first at Mash Barn Lane HQ looking to rush past the security guard, to get to them.
 


NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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I write this with a genuine question, but worry that it appears confrontational - it genuinely isn't! My perception from a (small) number of posts that I think I have read on various threads is that you are specifically sceptical of Dan Ashworth and his role. I think you might have suggested, or I have interpreted that GP is almost told that player x and y must play -possibly Ben White for example? I just wonder what it is that tells you that?
On the face of it that might appear concerning if GP would make different decisions but has his hands tied on who plays when. Although it could also be that the senior members of the Club, including GP agree on which players have the potential to create profit and agree a strategy to make that happen - 1st XI playing time, loans etc. May be way off with the perception, but interested to know what irks you about Ashworth and his role ?


I am not the only poster on here to have opinions such as these.
 


Eric Youngs Contact Lens

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I am not the only poster on here to have opinions such as these.

I am sorry if that has landed badly - not my style at all. Not looking to press you but your comments register with me because I read your posts with interest because on the topic of players and recruitment you have well grounded views, that I have valued or agreed with. Hence I am genuinely interested in your opinion. I will leave it there..:thumbsup:
 






vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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There are NSC posters who actively promote that striker is not our main problem.


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There are??

I think most of NSC. Maybe even 90% of the Albion fan base have obsessively been crying out for a new striker signing? I know I have.

You genuinely think you’re one of the few to think this?
 




vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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Brighton
But you don’t get angry about it. Giving Bloom a free ride.

I’m definitely critical of the recruitment in the striker department though. Who isn’t?

b.w.2, wanting a striker is hardly an original idea lol. Just check out every match thread, or the recent Tammy Abraham topic.
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
I write this with a genuine question, but worry that it appears confrontational - it genuinely isn't! My perception from a (small) number of posts that I think I have read on various threads is that you are specifically sceptical of Dan Ashworth and his role. I think you might have suggested, or I have interpreted that GP is almost told that player x and y must play -possibly Ben White for example? I just wonder what it is that tells you that?
On the face of it that might appear concerning if GP would make different decisions but has his hands tied on who plays when. Although it could also be that the senior members of the Club, including GP agree on which players have the potential to create profit and agree a strategy to make that happen - 1st XI playing time, loans etc. May be way off with the perception, but interested to know what irks you about Ashworth and his role ?

IIRC, when Ashworth was appointed Technical Director he was asked if his appointment was in any way threat to, or undermining the manager, and his reply was on the lines of, "No, I'm here to keep the manager in his job". Six month later, Hughton was sacked.
I'm not sure what the poster's relationship with CH is, but he's certainly a strong supporter; all in all then, it might be a reason why he is less than enthusiastic about Ashworth.
 


Neville's Breakfast

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IIRC, when Ashworth was appointed Technical Director he was asked if his appointment was in any way threat to, or undermining the manager, and his reply was on the lines of, "No, I'm here to keep the manager in his job". Six month later, Hughton was sacked.
I'm not sure what the poster's relationship with CH is, but he's certainly a strong supporter; all in all then, it might be a reason why he is less than enthusiastic about Ashworth.

I really dislike that type of management speak
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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I’m definitely critical of the recruitment in the striker department though. Who isn’t?

b.w.2, wanting a striker is hardly an original idea lol. Just check out every match thread, or the recent Tammy Abraham topic.

I’m posting tongue in cheek.

I truly wish we had a striker tucking away some of these chances.

But life’s too short to get hot under the collar about it, especially days after the last game.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
Everyone gets it. Not everyone is inclined to throw toys out of the pram towards Tony.

I think everyone gets it - just that some people don't require the world to be so totally binary (no names, no pack drill, but you'll probably recognise some of them if they wade in!)
We have strikers who cannot hit a cow's arse with a banjo. We know that. It's a problem that needs to be addressed.

We have midfielders who, although they run the midfield rather well most of the time, also cannot hit a cow's arse with a banjo. This is also a problem - and it's not a binary choice, both problems can exist at the same time.

If Bissouma, Gross, MacAllister, Lallana and March had all chipped in with three or four goals each, we would in my estimation be a comfortable five or more places higher up the league. We would still have strikers who can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo, and that would still need to be addressed, but we wouldn't have the same gnashing of teeth, weeping and wailing and toys-out-of-the-pram throwing that some like to indulge in.
 
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Lifelong Supporter

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Aug 4, 2009
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Unfortunately £20 million will not buy a PL striker. It will by a striker who MAY score goes in the PL but if you are looking to buy anybody who has recently scored a good number of goals in the PL expect to pay £50million plus and £120k a week plus.

IF we did want to sell Maupay clubs would take a punt on him at £20 million (what we paid) for sure.
 




DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
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Wiltshire
There are NSC posters who actively promote that striker is not our main problem. Step forward Swanny and his cronies...


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Has Swansman got his own cronies now? Can I join?
 


albionalex

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Feb 26, 2009
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Unfortunately £20 million will not buy a PL striker. It will by a striker who MAY score goes in the PL but if you are looking to buy anybody who has recently scored a good number of goals in the PL expect to pay £50million plus and £120k a week plus.

IF we did want to sell Maupay clubs would take a punt on him at £20 million (what we paid) for sure.

Callum Wilson was £20million. Josh King £5million.
 








albionalex

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Feb 26, 2009
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Yes and Wilson is 29,on £130 grand a week plus hefty signing-on fee with no re-sale value.

No thanks

The point stands that you can buy a proven PL scorer for £20m.

You make some valid points in terms of wages, age and injury record. But he has scored a goal every other game in a poor Newcastle team. If he was in our team, I suspect we would be safe by now.
 


b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
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Everyone gets it. Not everyone is inclined to throw toys out of the pram towards Tony.

I have NEVER thrown my toys out of the pram, let alone at Tony. Show me the post or shut the **** up.


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