Brighton Breezy
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I can only assume you haven't been paying attention over the past 10 years then.
At the very least, look at the post above yours.
I have been paying full attention. Through the wind, snow and shit football.
I can only assume you haven't been paying attention over the past 10 years then.
At the very least, look at the post above yours.
Perhaps these prices reflect the amount of the annual TV money that each club diverts to the general running costs?
Blackburn also have Jack Walker's legacy to call upon, you might expect Arsenal to be high as they have the stadium to pay for, Fulham's capacity isn't great and Tottenham have "Harry's" economics to contend with.
In the end, gate receipts are not the major source of revenue for any Premier League club, in the Football League (certainly in FL1 and FL2) they are.
For those who can and are happy to pay over the odds for a more hospitality-like experience I do think the platinum seats are good value.
What do I mean when I say we pay over the odds? well I think £400 or £500 for division 3 football of varying quality is definitely to high. However there have been very obvious reasons for our high prices with the constant battle for Falmer and reduced revenue generating opportunities at Withdean have meant we needed to pay more to generate income keep the club going.
I would like to think at Falmer with the need to get considerably more bums on seats than we have at present, no more court cases, increased revenues from non match ticket sources, that yes we would see some sort of reduction in prices. To be honest I think we deserve it.
Do I really think that will happen, hand on heart and with a deep sigh, I would say no. But I can always hope.
Sorry, but I don't agree that we should be rewarded for watching football at Withdean.
We knew what it was like at the outset and no-one forced us to go.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Withdean but what were the options. It was better than staying at Gillingham, wasn't it?
The prices have been what the club deemed to be viable considering the costs of playing there and we all made a choice, pay it or not. Plenty haven't.
As for relating the cost of a ticket to the standard of football, when did buying a ticket ever guarantee attractive or successful football?
Sorry, but I don't agree that we should be rewarded for watching football at Withdean.
Sorry, but I don't agree that we should be rewarded for watching football at Withdean.
We knew what it was like at the outset and no-one forced us to go.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Withdean but what were the options. It was better than staying at Gillingham, wasn't it?
The prices have been what the club deemed to be viable considering the costs of playing there and we all made a choice, pay it or not. Plenty haven't.
As for relating the cost of a ticket to the standard of football, when did buying a ticket ever guarantee attractive or successful football?
I agree with everything you say. I was just comparing paying £1400 for a slightly larger seat and the right to sit or stand in a nice lounge before, during and after a game of potentially league one football with the cost of watching premier league football.
I agree with you on those points and have previously argued in support of the prices, due to those reasons you state, against those that keep banging on about reducing prices to £15 or £10 etc. And I agree that I don't see the club doing any real favours to those supporters that have suffered the worst ground for over 10 years for what could amount to the price of a pretty average player, especially when we are supposed to have millions in the fighting fund now.
The reward is based on the fact that we now have millions supporting the club and a reduction in ticket prices isn't going to bankrupt the club as it would have done a few years ago!
.........The reward is based on the fact that we now have millions supporting the club and a reduction in ticket prices isn't going to bankrupt the club as it would have done a few years ago!
Just a quick check of some premiership prices,
Blackburn - highest price £369
Tottenham - highest price £1175
Aston Villa - highest price £550
Everton - highest price £614
Fulham - highest price £849
Arsenal - £925 lower tier (but includes 7 cup games)
Makes you think.
Provided the club is self financing then fine BUT we are not. If you look at the annual acccounts for the previous "X" years then we have made a considerable annual loss apart from when Celtic bought AV. These losses were covered mostly by the current chairman and then effectively "written off" when they were converted into stock/shares giving Tony Bloom control of the club.
TB has said that he will cover the cost of the Falmer build (although on paper that is repayable in 2025?), will underwrite the costs associated with playing at Withdean until 2011 but apart from that the BHA is to be self-financing. Overall he looks to be putting £90M+ of his own money into the club but underwritng a reduction in ticket prices is not part of the deal. Personally, I agree with him that the club/business must finance itself; this is something I don't think it's ever done in the 50 years I've been watching the Albion. Many of us look fondly back at the Bamber/Mullery years but in hindsight they were a financial nightmare with the club reliant upon Mike Bamber's personal wealth which ultimately led (imo) to financial instability, winding up orders, Bill Archer, Hereford, Gillingham and Withdean.
If the Albion were to use TB's money to subsidise revenue expenditure then it may well lead to a similar situation to that at Selhurst where, however well meaning Simon Jordan was, he has landed Palace in the mire by doing just that.
The one BIG chance they had to maximise interest in Falmer by introducing deals on season tickets, and they have blown it big-time by INCREASING prices. So much for going out with a bang, the stadium will be half full as per usual. The club have had years to think about this and they have come up....priority for Falmer? Hardly going to pull the crowds in is it? Oh well.
Agreed but they are probably banking on the Poyet factor to draw in the crowds.
If thiings start like this season then it won't be such a success.
IMO current STH's should have had some sort of pricing incentive for the dross we have had to ensure for the last couple of seasons.
It's not current STH's that are the problem. A lot of them like myself will probably not be overly bothered by a £10-15 increase in prices over the season considering we already pay £420+ for the privilege and will go ahead and renew anyway.
This would have been a fantastic opportunity to lure back old STH's who got fed up of Withdean, or reel in new STH's who might have been tempted with a Falmer incentive (Last year at Withdean and first year at Falmer for say £700, something to tempt people in to enduring Withdean for one more year).
There is an AMAZING stadium going up, and there's a brilliant opportunity to cash in on the feel good factor going round at the moment.
Let's just hope the club have something up their sleeves regarding prices for Falmer.
The one BIG chance they had to maximise interest in Falmer by introducing deals on season tickets, and they have blown it big-time by INCREASING prices.
Still, the increase in revenue will probably be enough to cover the money spent on Liam Dickinson.
What an absolute bloody shambles.
Shittest ground in the league.
Most ridiculous ticket prices in the league.
And we've still got another season to go.
Anyone who things we're going to sell out Falmer for the entire opening season needs a reality check at those prices.
Oh do give it a rest. The costs of running matches at Withdean are the same ( or higher ) so why the hell would the club reduce prices as a "reward". The directors have been covering the losses themselves out of their own pockets for the last ten years - how much have you personably put into the club in that time to help cover the losses ( above your season ticket price ) ? Hmmmm ..... my guess - f*** all !
3% seems quite reasonable to me and I'd rather they did that than get into financial trouble. You're just an ungrateful sod !!!!