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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

Is Labour going to turn the country around

  • Yes

    Votes: 143 27.0%
  • No

    Votes: 320 60.4%
  • Fence

    Votes: 67 12.6%

  • Total voters
    530






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,476
The government doesnt need to take money from anyone to pay for so called "borrowing". Simpler - dont "Borrow" at all. Preferably get rid of bonds altogether and failing that, reduce interest rates to zero
ren and stimpy nicksplat GIF
 




dsr-burnley

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2014
2,994
A slightly confusing graph

Majority of people see SKS as pro immigration

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If YouGov is a responsible polling organisation, they must have asked a lot more than that. We don't know whether the opponents of immigration are opposed to even a single immigrant, or opposed to a million a year, or something in between. Conversely, of course, we don't know whether the supporters of immigration are in favour of come one come all, or controlled immigration, or any of a thousand other nuances.
 






SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
NSC Patron
Jan 25, 2025
1,006
A slightly confusing graph

Majority of people see SKS as pro immigration

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Anti-immigration people think he’s pro, while pro-immigration people think he’s anti. There’ll be some confirmation bias at play here but it essentially shows that he’s failing to please everybody all of the time, which probably means he’s doing a reasonable job of sticking to the middle ground.
 


TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
12,875
Good news from the energy sector

"Ofgem on Friday set the price cap for July to September at a level that would mean a typical household pays £1,720 per year, down from £1,849 at present, following a fall in wholesale gas price"

Quoted from the FT
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,528
On NSC for over two decades...
Anti-immigration people think he’s pro, while pro-immigration people think he’s anti. There’ll be some confirmation bias at play here but it essentially shows that he’s failing to please everybody all of the time, which probably means he’s doing a reasonable job of sticking to the middle ground.

I think he is headed in the right direction.

The small boats get all the headlines, but they aren't the main issue, which is how legal migration is controlled. We absolutely should be setting standards and expectations upon people who want to live and work here - namely that they speak English, that they obey our laws, respect our cultural norms, that they integrate with the native population, and leave any illiberal views and customs that their homeland may have back in their homeland.
 




herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,855
Still in Brighton
I think he is headed in the right direction.

... namely that they speak English, that they obey our laws, respect our cultural norms, that they integrate with the native population, and leave any illiberal views and customs that their homeland may have back in their homeland.

You'll get the first one, mostly the second but not much of the rest, in the main. I think it's naive to expect the rest and history shows it, imo.
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
22,931
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Good news from the energy sector

"Ofgem on Friday set the price cap for July to September at a level that would mean a typical household pays £1,720 per year, down from £1,849 at present, following a fall in wholesale gas price"

Quoted from the FT
If I came to power tomorrow the first thing I'd be doing is forcing this cap down to a much more reasonable level. Like £500 or something.

If the energy companies don't like it then they just get nationalised.
 


rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
5,247
Think this is being talked about because the government is thinking of letting convicted sex offenders out after just a third of their sentence. Assume it would only be given when they are let out.
Thank you and HWT for your replies. I'm a little more comfortable now I know that the process can be reversed when the inevitable next miscarriage of justice pops along.

And this chemical carstration is 100% reliable? Once its done, a rapist will never have the capability to rape again? Society will be 100% safe from convicted sex offenders who have been chemically carstrated?
 




Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,528
On NSC for over two decades...
You'll get the first one, mostly the second but not much of the rest, in the main. I think it's naive to expect the rest and history shows it, imo.

In that case you need to be selective about where you allow immigration from if people from some places are unwilling to meet our standards and expectations.
 
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fly high

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
2,379
in a house
Thank you and HWT for your replies. I'm a little more comfortable now I know that the process can be reversed when the inevitable next miscarriage of justice pops along.

And this chemical carstration is 100% reliable? Once its done, a rapist will never have the capability to rape again? Society will be 100% safe from convicted sex offenders who have been chemically carstrated?
Some have said in the past that although they can't actually rape a child or woman it doesn't change their controlling or aggressive behaviour so not sure everyone is 100% safe. Need more details.
 


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