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[Albion] Palace Fans Biggest Fear



Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,052
BBC “gossip”

Ivory Coast forward Wilfried Zaha is considering staying at Crystal Palace, with the 30-year-old's contract expiring this summer. (Talksport)


Every transfer window.
I’m leaving
Im leaving
No I’m really leaving




Ok I’ll stay.

🤣🤣🤣🤣
To be fair, why on EARTH would he leave when the hierarchy are prepared to throw 200 big ones a week at him – for the next FOUR YEARS?!

Where else is he going to get that sort of money?
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,052
Hang on, I do think some of you are getting a head of yourselfs here.

Last season 3 points separated the teams and this season yes you have streaked ahead to the surprise of most of the league and your own fans.

Do this for the next 2 or 3 seasons and you might have a point but there is absolutely no disgrace in a team like palace finishing the season mid table, with a FA cup semi last season and an FA cup final a few years ago.

You are fooling yourselves thinking we are all glum, most palace supporters are in a good place at the moment U15s have just won a nationwide tournament, the U 18 had a good season and so did the U23s, and we have ended this season playing some really nice football and scoring goals.

Enjoy this season but don’t all of a sudden lord over all the teams below.
Because NO fans of any club – including Palace – would ever do that to their rivals, obviously :dunce:
 


Peppermint Tea

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2007
1,072
Couple of things…

I take Loz’s point about not getting too far ahead of ourselves. It is the most amazing time in our club’s history and the short term future looks very rosey. But none of us know what the future holds beyond that and there will be bumps along the way. So let’s enjoy every second while we can but maybe be a little circumspect in projecting too far ahead.

Re SEGW…I’d be thrilled if he signed this £200k a week 5 year deal. As others have said, still a good player but ageing, picking up injuries and lost a yard of pace. Palace, like us, work to a finite budget and £200k a week strangles a fair amount of potential development…it’s 3/4 players’ worth. So yeah, sign up, bug eyes!
 
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dadams2k11

ID10T Error
Jun 24, 2011
4,951
Brighton
Hang on, I do think some of you are getting a head of yourselfs here.

Last season 3 points separated the teams and this season yes you have streaked ahead to the surprise of most of the league and your own fans.

Do this for the next 2 or 3 seasons and you might have a point but there is absolutely no disgrace in a team like palace finishing the season mid table, with a FA cup semi last season and an FA cup final a few years ago.

You are fooling yourselves thinking we are all glum, most palace supporters are in a good place at the moment U15s have just won a nationwide tournament, the U 18 had a good season and so did the U23s, and we have ended this season playing some really nice football and scoring goals.

Enjoy this season but don’t all of a sudden lord over all the teams below.
Thought you were better than that.

Using the U15's, U18's, and U23's in your argument comes across as clutching at straws.

I don't think your football could've got much worse so anything would have been an improvement.

Are you one of the fans that think keep Hodgson on, get 3 new players, and you will be challenging for Europe?

On your next manager, what's are your thoughts?
 


loz

Well-known member
Apr 27, 2009
2,279
W.Sussex
Thought you were better than that.

Using the U15's, U18's, and U23's in your argument comes across as clutching at straws.

I don't think your football could've got much worse so anything would have been an improvement.

Are you one of the fans that think keep Hodgson on, get 3 new players, and you will be challenging for Europe?

On your next manager, what's are your thoughts?
Don’t really get the “ Thought you were better than that” comment, I personally think that great foundations are being laid and that can only be good for the club going forward, the more successful the academy is the better the prospects for the future….I could be wrong ?
 






Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
11,002
Don’t really get the “ Thought you were better than that” comment, I personally think that great foundations are being laid and that can only be good for the club going forward, the more successful the academy is the better the prospects for the future….I could be wrong ?
Yeah that definitely is the way forward.
But if you don't offer a pathway to the first team there is no point.

You have a habit of not selling any players, just letting them run down their contracts.
Then offering extensions to high earners, who aren't producing at the level you are paying.

Beaky needs to bite the bullet and appoint a manager that will develop players from the academy into the first team.
Offering Wilf a new contract, before identifying next season's manager is a prime example of his risk averse nature.
 






Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
6,735
The McCarthy Era? - If so, let's hope they look back on it as fondly as the Americans do theirs...


Roy's renaissance has seen Palace take 16 points from a possible 24 and cement 12th place. In the opposite fixtures in the first half of the season Vieira's 12th placed strugglers took only 16 points from a possible 24.
 




eaglesdan

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
211
Yeah that definitely is the way forward.
But if you don't offer a pathway to the first team there is no point.

You have a habit of not selling any players, just letting them run down their contracts.
Then offering extensions to high earners, who aren't producing at the level you are paying.

Beaky needs to bite the bullet and appoint a manager that will develop players from the academy into the first team.
Offering Wilf a new contract, before identifying next season's manager is a prime example of his risk averse nature.
But we do offer a path to the first team, even if we need to send them out on loan first. Joe Whitworth played against you, and he was a ball boy at Selhurst. Our U21 team play PSV next week in the final of the Premier League International Cup. Jes Rak-Saki was player of the year for Charlton, and will be better for a year in League 1. AWB worked his way through the ranks, as did WZ.
Not sure how many have come through from the BHA Academy, or is it more down to smart signings of players with potential who can then be sold on for a profit?
 




Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
6,735
But we do offer a path to the first team, even if we need to send them out on loan first. Joe Whitworth played against you, and he was a ball boy at Selhurst. Our U21 team play PSV next week in the final of the Premier League International Cup. Jes Rak-Saki was player of the year for Charlton, and will be better for a year in League 1. AWB worked his way through the ranks, as did WZ.
Not sure how many have come through from the BHA Academy, or is it more down to smart signings of players with potential who can then be sold on for a profit?
Sanchez, Dunk, March, McGill in the first team squad all played youth football for us. Also Ben White who was sold for more than Wan-Bissaka. Connolly, Roberts, Richards, Khadra etc all on loan in the Championship / League One. More of the U21s on loan in D2, Scotland etc. Offiah, Moran, Peupion, Hinshelwood, Hinchy, Turns, Furlong, Spong, Peupion from the U21s all been in the first team squad this season, a lot of them have played in cup games. I've left out players like Sarmiento, Ferguson, Ostigard & Gyokeres who played for the U21s, but who were over 18 when they joined.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
Oct 4, 2003
11,279
Sanchez, Dunk, March, McGill in the first team squad all played youth football for us. Also Ben White who was sold for more than Wan-Bissaka. Connolly, Roberts, Richards, Khadra etc all on loan in the Championship / League One. More of the U21s on loan in D2, Scotland etc. Offiah, Moran, Peupion, Hinshelwood, Hinchy, Turns, Furlong, Spong, Peupion from the U21s all been in the first team squad this season, a lot of them have played in cup games. I've left out players like Sarmiento, Ferguson, Ostigard & Gyokeres who played for the U21s, but who were over 18 when they joined.
Ferguson was 16 when he joined us. He’s only just turned 18.
 






loz

Well-known member
Apr 27, 2009
2,279
W.Sussex
Can’t we agree both teams have had a good season ? Brighton the better season obviously.

Also both team believe the future is good with their youngsters, whether many go on and play pro football at elite level is always questionable.

This thread is about what palace fans fear at at the moment it’s not the youth team.

The problem is whether to stick or twist in the manager stakes and Zaha and do we really think his worth what’s reported?
 




Dougie

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2012
5,730
Can’t speak for anyone else here but if you think Palace have had a decent season, then… good for you.
It’s a good season if we stay up. I’m sorry if that doesn’t fit with your sudden lofty aspirations.
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,971
Manchester
Come now, that's not fair at all.




Some years they achieved mid table mediocrity.
Ah yes, that year they finished 10th.
The McCarthy Era? - If so, let's hope they look back on it as fondly as the Americans do theirs...


Roy's renaissance has seen Palace take 16 points from a possible 24 and cement 12th place. In the opposite fixtures in the first half of the season Vieira's 12th placed strugglers took only 16 points from a possible 24.
This sort of illustrates my point about Palace. They are actually ok at grinding our results against lower-table opposition; hence they can accumulate 40something points and finish 5-10 points clear of trouble. They can't however beat anyone half decent, like we can. Palace have one solitary win against a top-half team this season, which was Villa back in August when Gerrard was still manager.
 








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