[Misc] The Award-winning official "More Snow Tomorrow?" Thread [2023-24 Season]

[clippedgull]

Nice App. Meteogroup (behind raintoday) do a paid for prec type service - the sometimes offer it free for periods when there's snow about. It's worth keeping any eye out for.

I just paid for a £1.49 for a 3 month premium service, seems to give you a lot more to play with!

 

[Papa Lazarou]

These sites are just up the road for me...

http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/latestobservationservlet?siteID=18967445 Goring - Temp 4.5C DP about -7C

http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/latestobservationservlet?siteID=30822555 Durrington - well Salvington, temp 3.4C DP between -8 and -9C..

My weather station is wrong.

With such low DPs, it is possible to get snow at above zero C at the surface.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

With respect to the current High temps and seeming Dew Points on the south coast... from Mid Hants TWO members (I don't know which footy team they support)

The current parameters across many areas are pretty much as modelled. Colder and more importantly dryer air is now being drawn up into the south. The band has turned to snow in the Channel and everyone in CS coastal counties will see the air getting colder in degrees over the next four or five hours.

I am 90% confident that most coastal areas from Portland eastwards will see snow, but the boundary layer mixing is marginal so a sleety mix possible right on the shore and this extending a few miles inland as ppn rates fall Fri pm (if they do as there's some debate over further developments). 5 miles inland and inland IOW staying as snow on latest MetO UK4 model. 10 miles inland and up into the body of Dorset, Hampshire, W Sussex and beyond snow no problem from the off to the end.

and

I can really visualise what's happening out there - the flow has turned morefrom the south than southeast during the evening, and this has dragged higher 2m temps and DPs up from the Channel, but it's also pulling up cold continental air with its low DPs that are clearly powerful if they're producing snow over the sea.

So we have a wedge of maritime-modified air moving up from the Channel and mixing out gradually, with the frigid continental air in, er, cold pursuit...

What a rare experience it is to have rain drops falling here and snow falling to my south

 

[Bert365]

is that it hitting the west now on raintoday

 

[Deanbha]

With respect to the current High temps and seeming Dew Points on the south coast... from Mid Hants TWO members (I don't know which footy team they support)



Could this potentially be the worse snow we have had in years?

 

[Weststander]

Still 2.6c in north Bton.

Need a big temp fall still, prior to the precipitation getting here.

 

[Flex Your Head]

I think that first quote in Papa's post directly above was written by Uncle Spielberg... but I might be wrong.

 

[Djmiles]

NAE 48he Precip totals for those interested.

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=nae&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=201301171800&VAR=rsum&HH=48&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&RES=0&WMO=&PERIOD

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I think that first quote in Papa's post directly above was written by Uncle Spielberg... but I might be wrong.

No, It was far too optimistic about snow.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

NAE 48he Precip totals for those interested.

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=nae&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=201301171800&VAR=rsum&HH=48&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&RES=0&WMO=&PERIOD

Just saw those myself... is that 15mm of rain, which on average might give 150mm or 15cm of snow...

 

[casbom]

First snow flurry here, just blowing in the wind.

Temp 2c DP -3c

The NAE total is up by a couple of mm (1mm = roughly 1cm)

Feels like Christmas Eve!!!

 

[Flex Your Head]

No, It was far too optimistic about snow.

Yes, and it actually had something based on technical data.

I was being sarky in my post.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

For those who are interested in the longer prospects, this is worth a read

Weather - Britains icy blast set to last

 

[Weststander]

These sites are just up the road for me...

http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/latestobservationservlet?siteID=18967445 Goring - Temp 4.5C DP about -7C

http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/latestobservationservlet?siteID=30822555 Durrington - well Salvington, temp 3.4C DP between -8 and -9C..

My weather station is wrong.

With such low DPs, it is possible to get snow at above zero C at the surface.

From experience, and Ive heard meteorologists state this, +3c and below gives full blown snow fall. Is this your experience?

 

[Sussax]

Just started snowing in Burgess Hill, very light.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

From experience, and Ive heard meteorologists state this, +3c and below gives full blown snow fall. Is this your experience?

The Dew Point is more vital - with sub zero dew points (and other favorable variables) it's possible to get snow at temps of up to 8C

 

[Weststander]

Typing in Henfield as an example, BBC are now showing heavy snow from 10am to 5pm tomorrow, non stop light snow after that, and sub zero temps day and night until Monday.

in north Brighton, I find locations like Henfield better reflect what happens to us, as we are 3 miles from the mild Channel, 100m up in altitude, and in the suburbs well away from the urban heat island effect.

I hope the bbc / met office are correct.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Apparently DP values should (and are) dropping widely along the South coast...

This site shows current officially reported values

Dew Point, Map: United Kingdom : Current weather

 

[terryberry1]

Re: The award-winning official "More snow tomorrow?" thread [2012-13 season]

snowing in preston park. Thick flakes too

 

[Jim in the West]

For those who are interested in the longer prospects, this is worth a read

Weather - Britains icy blast set to last

Do we need to start worrying about the Arsenal game?