Bart who passed the ball to Solanke last week so he could kick it into an empty net? You do realise that many of our amazing victories have been because of Steele’s incredible ability with the ball at his feet?
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[Albion] Steele and Webster
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METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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Anyone suggesting that somehow Steele was pivotal in our defeat today is clearly hurting( like us all) but knows nothing about football!
A bad day at the office from everyone including the manager
A bad day at the office from everyone including the manager
Badger Boy
Mr Badger
- Jan 28, 2016
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Steele looks like exactly what he is - a Championship/League 1 goalkeeper who has Premier League talent with his feet. He won't make any saves you wouldn't expect and goals conceded won't be his fault but he won't be a factor in preventing them. Very similar to John Sullivan who was rarely at fault for the goals conceded but they were always 4 of them. That nonsense finished when King Michel was fit again to resume keeping goal. Steele isn't even close to being a top level goalkeeper so either we protect him at all costs or realise the truth and get him out of the team.
Much like Arteta has done at Arsenal with another goalkeeper who is sub-standard. The media can talk all it wants but who plays? Raya. Verbruggen should be our number 1 every game now.
Much like Arteta has done at Arsenal with another goalkeeper who is sub-standard. The media can talk all it wants but who plays? Raya. Verbruggen should be our number 1 every game now.
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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List me the swathe of goals that Steele has been directly at fault for to quality such a statement?
Mustafa II
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Bloody hell, is just 'not being directly at fault for goals' your main requirement for our Premier League keeper?
Watching the highlights on MOTD got me raging a little bit. It's like he's just incapable of making difficult saves. But then, I already knew that, just seeing six of them in five minutes was particularly hard to watch.
Aek last goal for sure .... really slow to come out. Man u away.
Yesterday 2nd beaten at his near post with a shot that dribbled in. 4th bigger more alert goalie saves. 5th again bigger more alert goalie saves.
London Irish
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I know NSC is great at overreaction but I guess it’s been a while since we had one of these, it’s still funny to watch. The amount of self destructive errors yesterday makes the game impossible to draw huge lessons from.
I think the match will have zero long term consequences for any of our players. Possible exception is Webster who is struggling to cope with quick offensive players in the manner of Duffy in his final days. But even he had a reasonable game last week so to even say he’s finished is a wee bit premature.
The game will no doubt give plenty to RDZ to analyse in his rotation. Sometimes I think his combinations lack the gelled nature of practiced teamwork but it’s a long season - they’ll get practice!
Ike and Tina Burner
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- Mar 22, 2019
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I think Steele is a luxury player at this point. As people say he's very good with the ball at his feet, maybe even world class. However, there's a reason he's spent so much time in the lower divisions and it's because he is a lower division goalkeeper in every other aspect of his game.
Last season, when we were mostly dominanting opposition teams, he was the correct option. Newcastle away and Everton at home were tasters for this season though. He lets in every decent shot and is weak on set peices. We're not good enough now to get away with it. Time for Bart to be consistent number 1 imo.
Last season, when we were mostly dominanting opposition teams, he was the correct option. Newcastle away and Everton at home were tasters for this season though. He lets in every decent shot and is weak on set peices. We're not good enough now to get away with it. Time for Bart to be consistent number 1 imo.
London Irish
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I mean genuinely speculative stuff you can get away with when everybody is having a funny turn
albionalex
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Conveniently ignoring Verbruggen's clanger vs Bournemouth?
albionalex
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What a bizarre thing to get so worked up about.
Yes, Steele is not an amazing shot stopper (and even a top class shot stopper wouldn't have had much hope yesterday).
But he saves the ones he should and is so important to how we play out from the back.
Out of interest, which other Prem keepers would you rank ahead of Steele? (Not specifically for shot stopping but shot stopping + playing out from the back)
I agree what a silly thread. I assume this came from the thread starters knee jerking a lot? Can I suggest he put a bag of frozen Birdseye peas upon that knee, but swiftly making sure he moves it to his head afterwards.
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I have finally got round to watching the goals from Saturday again.
My OP was actually a broader post that for too long I don’t think Steele and Webster are what we need defensively but now I’ve seen the goals in the cold light of day I stand by it even more.
1st goal Webster let’s Watkins get in front of him, you can’t do that at this level.
2nd goal, Steele is too slow to get down to his right, maybe there’s mitigation with the player in front but still looked soft
3rd goal, didn’t realise at the time but Steele palms a week shot that was straight at him straight back into the danger zone which leads to the goal. Very poor keeping.
4th goal - maybe harsh on Webster but he’s out of position when the ball is floated over his head, he’s slow to react and then lunges in causing the deflection.
5. 5th goal - Steele seems to misjudge it. He doesn’t full extend his arm to tip it away assuming it’s going wide. A clear error of judgement
6th goal - Webster loses his man then puts in a weak attempt to tackle. He then sits on his arse rather than attempt to be ready for the ball coming back out.
So, for those who claimed it was harsh on these to players, go watch the game again without the heightened emotions.
For those who don’t like this thread but feel need to say so… not sure you have grasped what a football forum is for.
My OP was actually a broader post that for too long I don’t think Steele and Webster are what we need defensively but now I’ve seen the goals in the cold light of day I stand by it even more.
1st goal Webster let’s Watkins get in front of him, you can’t do that at this level.
2nd goal, Steele is too slow to get down to his right, maybe there’s mitigation with the player in front but still looked soft
3rd goal, didn’t realise at the time but Steele palms a week shot that was straight at him straight back into the danger zone which leads to the goal. Very poor keeping.
4th goal - maybe harsh on Webster but he’s out of position when the ball is floated over his head, he’s slow to react and then lunges in causing the deflection.
5. 5th goal - Steele seems to misjudge it. He doesn’t full extend his arm to tip it away assuming it’s going wide. A clear error of judgement
6th goal - Webster loses his man then puts in a weak attempt to tackle. He then sits on his arse rather than attempt to be ready for the ball coming back out.
So, for those who claimed it was harsh on these to players, go watch the game again without the heightened emotions.
For those who don’t like this thread but feel need to say so… not sure you have grasped what a football forum is for.
London Irish
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All of this is very sentiment driven. What even happened a few games ago doesn't matter. People are just adjusting the evidence to whatever they want to see
LamieRobertson
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Erm to give an opinion? you gave yours they gave theirs, not sure what are you complaining about
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Just irritates me, if they disagree with my opinion then fair enough let’s debate. But the people who feel the need to say this thread shouldn’t exist without any reasons as to why contribute nothing.