GoldWithFalmer
Seaweed! Seaweed!
yes i saw that and thought i should put it in then i though i would omit that part and wait & see,so i did that on purpose-see we do.good luck & god bless.
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Depression
- Thread starter Frutos
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yes i saw that and thought i should put it in then i though i would omit that part and wait & see,so i did that on purpose-see we do.good luck & god bless.
bhaexpress
New member
I should just mention that I have been treated for depression for many years but am doing fine now. All I would say is that a football message board is not the best place to go for advice. A lot of what has been said so far has been good but although no doubt well intentioned, some of it has been ridiculous. Bite your own particular bullet and talk to an expert, a doctor or a psychiatric nurse.
And you and take care.
GoldWithFalmer
Seaweed! Seaweed!
me too-i went for the faith healer-with the remedy's,a close friend who is well qualified-sometimes talking helps in fact in most cases talking helps.
mistahclarke
Well-known member
- Jul 28, 2009
- 2,997
I can tell you what NOT to do.... gambling and drinking. About £300 down this weekend so feeling pretty low I have to admit.
I feel for you mate, but doing worthwhile things in your life helps.
I feel for you mate, but doing worthwhile things in your life helps.
I was reading an article the other day by a psychologist who was saying how many people confuse depression for the general ups and downs in life. There is, of course, proper depression due to chemical imbalances in the brain, a lack of seratonin production etc. However, he was saying how if you feel down from the break up of a relationship or a death of a close one then is this really depression as such or just a very, very natural reaction to a life situation? In fact, it is as normal a reaction as you would expect someone to feel.
Was interesting as it was basically saying how in Post modern society we are so quick to label something as depression when in actual fact we all go through peaks and dips and it is perfectly acceptable. He was also very critical of bi-polar, suggesting everyone has a high to low split personality. I will try and find the article and post it here.
Anyway, that was in no way meant to be critical of how you are feeling but actually what you may be feeling could be a completley natural and normal state of mind.
Was interesting as it was basically saying how in Post modern society we are so quick to label something as depression when in actual fact we all go through peaks and dips and it is perfectly acceptable. He was also very critical of bi-polar, suggesting everyone has a high to low split personality. I will try and find the article and post it here.
Anyway, that was in no way meant to be critical of how you are feeling but actually what you may be feeling could be a completley natural and normal state of mind.
Falkor
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- Jun 3, 2011
- 5,673
this is a song i can really relate to, its by Goldies Band, a show that was on the BBC, so true for me.
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Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
What exactly is depression, and how do you recognise the symptoms ?
This may seem a strange question, but i really don't know what it is.
ike this thread you read about it, but that is as far as my knowledge of it goes to.
This may seem a strange question, but i really don't know what it is.
ike this thread you read about it, but that is as far as my knowledge of it goes to.
Falkor
Banned
- Jun 3, 2011
- 5,673
For me it started with a lack of sleeping, then i wouldnt eat correctly, then with them 2 for me it started a nasty circle, as when ya get lack of sleep and food ya feel like crap anyway.
I then took an over dose and walked into work and quit my job(i cant actually remember doing it), then i went to hospital and they said i had depression and revered me to the mental health services, it took over 3 year to be diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, i still dont actually think thats what i have. But the Dr seem adamant. Depression is an awful ilness, like i said i was on 4 different tablets and taking atleast 10pills a day just to keep me going, but when i was on them i wouldn't get out of bed i was just a waste, and all i kept doing was overdoses so i spoke to another specialist and he felt it was safer if i came of them and went to some therapy sessions instead.
I also have PTSD but that stems from a few tragic events, Child abuse i suffered, 1 of my good friends died from cancer and hit me really hard, then about 1 week before my son was born my best friend died in Pizza Hut of all places from sudden adult death syndrome, my son was then born a week later and was pretty ill and was in special care for a while, in the process of trying to help out with my friends funereal. The police wouldnt realise the body for ages as his death was unexplained for so long. My friend was a Special in the police force, and was just a lovely lovely guy, hit me so hard losing him. So much so that they do a charity event every year and i just cant bring my self to go to it.
I then took an over dose and walked into work and quit my job(i cant actually remember doing it), then i went to hospital and they said i had depression and revered me to the mental health services, it took over 3 year to be diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, i still dont actually think thats what i have. But the Dr seem adamant. Depression is an awful ilness, like i said i was on 4 different tablets and taking atleast 10pills a day just to keep me going, but when i was on them i wouldn't get out of bed i was just a waste, and all i kept doing was overdoses so i spoke to another specialist and he felt it was safer if i came of them and went to some therapy sessions instead.
I also have PTSD but that stems from a few tragic events, Child abuse i suffered, 1 of my good friends died from cancer and hit me really hard, then about 1 week before my son was born my best friend died in Pizza Hut of all places from sudden adult death syndrome, my son was then born a week later and was pretty ill and was in special care for a while, in the process of trying to help out with my friends funereal. The police wouldnt realise the body for ages as his death was unexplained for so long. My friend was a Special in the police force, and was just a lovely lovely guy, hit me so hard losing him. So much so that they do a charity event every year and i just cant bring my self to go to it.
GoldWithFalmer
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a state of mind thing-i have just outed my avatar and signature as i was depressed with the look and feel of things-time for a change.
Edit:cleaner smoother and takes up less space-i am less depressed.
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Tom Hark Preston Park
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tedebear
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Have you been formally diagnosed by your GP or other professional? If so...
Find someone to talk to (I know a brilliant CBT therapist)
Read loads about it, and how it happens, and understand what it is
Exercise
Eat really well (nothing processed)
Remind yourself you are not alone, nearly everyone you pass on the street has felt or suffered some sort of depression.
If you haven't been to see your GP/Health Care Professional, then I'd suggest you do. You can still do the above anyhow but its really important to see someone who can rule out anything else and set you on a path to recovery (without medication should you chose as I did).
Find someone to talk to (I know a brilliant CBT therapist)
Read loads about it, and how it happens, and understand what it is
Exercise
Eat really well (nothing processed)
Remind yourself you are not alone, nearly everyone you pass on the street has felt or suffered some sort of depression.
If you haven't been to see your GP/Health Care Professional, then I'd suggest you do. You can still do the above anyhow but its really important to see someone who can rule out anything else and set you on a path to recovery (without medication should you chose as I did).
One would have to agree with this.
Mr Banana
Tedious chump
It's the opposite of depression. And yes, it is very trendy to claim a sudden battle with "depression" in the week after your latest break-up/bad day at work/failure to find the brand of make-up you were after in Boots.
Gary Leeds
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- May 5, 2008
- 1,526
I was the same about 8 years ago, had 2 years on the meds, docs kept changing what I was on to try and find what worked and the mood swings became impossible to live with. After several ODs and bouts of physical violence (which involved smashing up the kitchen and putting my head through a door) I decided there was only one way to tackle this and that was to come off every medication and try to control it myself.
8 years on I still get the bouts, but now I can spot them coming and try to control them. I find taking up a new hobby even if its only for a couple of weeks gets me over it, or learn something new, anything to change the way your mind is working. Boredom is one of the big triggers for me and if I cant find anything to releive the boredom I will have an early night. Better to have a nights sleep and be refreshed the following day than sit there becoming worse and worse
Falkor
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- Jun 3, 2011
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i can spot the triggers now aswell, it took far to long to get on top of it, i lost almost every thing, my ex partner left me and took our son with her, as it just was not right that i kept doing these stupid things, i was never a risk to anyone else, just to myself. I hated every thing i had become.
I have visits more or less every week from the mental health services, that said im leaving Ashford mental health services in August so dunno whats going to happen next. Lucky for me i have meet someone who has a understanding of mental health, she is a nurse herself and is a great help. I used to hear voices that was probs the worst for me, as they were really distressing, but they just felt i got so so depressed it was just my mind go of the wall as sense i have been getting better they have gone away.
I will have this for life no doubt, and im sure there are going to be hard times in the future, but i now know what to do.
Do ya have a crisis team?
There is a great deal of difference between depression and the "ups and downs" of life, or generally being "pissed off". The latter two are very temporary. Neither is despression "a state of mind", as someone here called it.
As others have said, there are different types of depression with different causes. You need to find the cause of your depression (if possible) before you can go on to deal with it. For that, you need to see a doctor or health professional. Some forms of depression are caused by a physical imbalance in the brain, for which medication is often advised, to physically correct that imbalance.
For myself, I was seriously (suicidally) depressed for about 10 years until I married. My husband was the "cure". He was someone who accepted me exactly as I was, mental illness and all, and someone to whom I could open up with my darkest and innermost thoughts. When I had children, I simply didn't have time to be depressed. I adored being their mother, firstly because they were terrific children, and secondly, probably most importantly in relation to my depression, they adored me, too, and needed me.
Now, they have left home. Indeed, we have left home and live abroad. Last year, having lost almost everything (family, house, pets, career, hobbies) to come abroad, the old depression reared its ugly head again. This time, it was accompanied by panic attacks. It's a completely different feeling to being "pissed off" with having to live abroad and be away from everyone. It's a feeling of hopelessness which you can't control. You don't want life to be like this. You want it to be different. You don't want these feelings that you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and that you're creeping so quickly towards death, these days, that you might as well get it over with, and jump off the balcony. But it's also the feeling that you don't actually want to die. You want a life, but a life without these hopeless feelings of uselessness.
My doctor here sent me to a psychologist and both of them wanted to put me on pills, but I refused. I spent about a year talking to the psychologist, who, in effect, took the place of my husband, who now has depression himself. The psychologist helped me to examine things which had gone on in my life, things which are going on, and things which could go on. Talking to a professional helped me realise, for example, that certain things were not my fault, that I was quite entitled to feeling resentment at having been dragged away from almost everything I knew and loved.
From my own experience, opening up to someone and talking about it all was the key. It could be your key.
As others have said, there are different types of depression with different causes. You need to find the cause of your depression (if possible) before you can go on to deal with it. For that, you need to see a doctor or health professional. Some forms of depression are caused by a physical imbalance in the brain, for which medication is often advised, to physically correct that imbalance.
For myself, I was seriously (suicidally) depressed for about 10 years until I married. My husband was the "cure". He was someone who accepted me exactly as I was, mental illness and all, and someone to whom I could open up with my darkest and innermost thoughts. When I had children, I simply didn't have time to be depressed. I adored being their mother, firstly because they were terrific children, and secondly, probably most importantly in relation to my depression, they adored me, too, and needed me.
Now, they have left home. Indeed, we have left home and live abroad. Last year, having lost almost everything (family, house, pets, career, hobbies) to come abroad, the old depression reared its ugly head again. This time, it was accompanied by panic attacks. It's a completely different feeling to being "pissed off" with having to live abroad and be away from everyone. It's a feeling of hopelessness which you can't control. You don't want life to be like this. You want it to be different. You don't want these feelings that you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and that you're creeping so quickly towards death, these days, that you might as well get it over with, and jump off the balcony. But it's also the feeling that you don't actually want to die. You want a life, but a life without these hopeless feelings of uselessness.
My doctor here sent me to a psychologist and both of them wanted to put me on pills, but I refused. I spent about a year talking to the psychologist, who, in effect, took the place of my husband, who now has depression himself. The psychologist helped me to examine things which had gone on in my life, things which are going on, and things which could go on. Talking to a professional helped me realise, for example, that certain things were not my fault, that I was quite entitled to feeling resentment at having been dragged away from almost everything I knew and loved.
From my own experience, opening up to someone and talking about it all was the key. It could be your key.
redneb
Active member
Frutos, what exactly are you depressed about. Is there something that has happened recently, eg break up. Or maybe your just not where you wanna be, dont feel belonging to something you want to belong to, dont feel part of it?? Or maybe you just have a clinical problem which is basically an imbalance in your brain.
Return of the Rev
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don't go on nsc when on a downer!