[Politics] Brexit

[pb21]

They want to keep the drawbridge open at the same time of getting their products produced for the lowest possible price. This needs to start by big business changing their attitude, for example a drinks manufacturer buying his plastic bottles from China, needs to look closer to home and see if that product can be manufactured here.

If it costs a bit more to manufacture it, then so be it, in the end the drink might cost a few pence, but better jobs, British jobs will be created out of it. It is not rocket science.

I will not be lectured by big business until they start changing their attitude, and stupid politicians calling British people lazy.

It is interesting to see normal tory voters wanting to leave the EU to control the economy and for businesses to change the way they behave in the market to alter the negative impacts that the free market introduces.

One poster thinks those who want to remain are free market tories, you could suggest that those who want to leave are suddenly in favour of regular state intervention. It is interesting to see people arguing for something they are normally otherwise against!

 

[pastafarian]

Moreover if we leave and inward investment crashes, as we've been warned it will, those people who build buildings will find them have fewer sites to work on and fewer jobs.

 

[Soulman]

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Thankfully most are looking at the long term. Let's just get back to making our own decisions, abide by our own laws etc. We can kick out a UK government, we have no say on the Unelected EU leaders....... i bet very few on here even know the names of those in power in the EU, nonsense isn't it.

 

[Bladders]

Seriously would anyone in Europe let alone the UK actually recognise Juncker out on the streets.... who elected this tit to run this massive corrupt expensive club.

Cameron had one thing right, this bloke wasn't fit for purpose.

 

[One Love]

Thankfully most are looking at the long term. Let's just get back to making our own decisions, abide by our own laws etc. We can kick out a UK government, we have no say on the Unelected EU leaders....... i bet very few on here even know the names of those in power in the EU, nonsense isn't it.

I'm pretty sure if that poll had been amended to long term economic turmoil to reduce immigration the result would have been slightly different.

Minimal decisions are made by EU leaders, I don't like it but it's just a minor downside to remain.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Stop being stupid .... the data isn't from CPE or LSE so doesn't count according to 5Ways !

 

[Buzzer]

Get ready for the next Greek crisis....

https://euobserver.com/economic/133607

"...Greece has told its creditors it cannot implement some of the extra changes required in exchange for fresh bailout loans..."

There is an almighty storm brewing over this and with Portugal and Italy's financial woes and unemployment problems there is no way that the British can avoid getting dragged into this if we remain in the EU.

 

[One Love]

Stop being stupid .... the data isn't from CPE or LSE so doesn't count according to 5Ways !

More importantly, it's not relevant.

 

[Bakero]

Stop being stupid .... the data isn't from CPE or LSE so doesn't count according to 5Ways !

Tyrannical billionaire Rupert Murdoch is a much more reliable source.

 

[Hampster Gull]

It is interesting to see normal tory voters wanting to leave the EU to control the economy and for businesses to change the way they behave in the market to alter the negative impacts that the free market introduces.

One poster thinks those who want to remain are free market tories, you could suggest that those who want to leave are suddenly in favour of regular state intervention. It is interesting to see people arguing for something they are normally otherwise against!

The Labour leader and most of the party are for Remain. Inconvenient truth i know but still

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The Labour leader and most of the party are for Remain. Inconvenient truth i know but still

As are all living Labour leaders according to a letter today.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

The Labour leader and most of the party are for Remain. Inconvenient truth i know but still

That should tell you something ....

 

[Hampster Gull]

That should tell you something ....

Yes it does. It tells me that those that keep bleating on about tories and remain are a bit misguided

 

[Hampster Gull]

As are all living Labour leaders according to a letter today.

I guess that they have compassion for the UK people. Nice to see

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Yes it does. It tells me that those that keep bleating on about tories and remain are a bit misguided

Perhaps some Tories like the continuous inward flow of cheap Labour and some in Labour like the continuous inward flow of new voters.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Perhaps some Tories like the continuous inward flow of cheap Labour and some in Labour like the continuous inward flow of new voters.

Key word is "some". Yes, possibly. Any many others see their future enhanced within the EU than outside

 

[melias shoes]

The Labour leader and most of the party are for Remain. Inconvenient truth i know but still

The Labour leader may well have signed a letter siding with remain. Everyone knows it isn't worth the paper it's written on. He's more Euro sceptic than I am.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Stop being stupid .... the data isn't from CPE or LSE so doesn't count according to 5Ways !

Just out of interest, has anyone directed a question like this at the people who would be most affected by 'economic turmoil'? People working for foreign direct investment companies and so on. It's pretty easy to sit in Sussex and say that the loss of a few thousand jobs in the North East is a price worth paying. Bit different if one of them is yours.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

One of my brothers sent me this. Quite funny . . . . .

'One pro-stay London Underground passenger wasn’t happy with the Brexit advert they noticed in the Evening Standard, and so decided to make a few alterations.
The anonymous vandal added their own comments to a poster that proclaimed that the European Union is “crisis after crisis after crisis”.
Found this on the London Tube this Morning
The poster now reads:
“CRISIS – Immigration is out of control” - “Is it? The problems in the middle east are out of control!”
“AFTER – open borders do not work” – “I think they do. I quite like a trip to France/Spain/Italy without having to worry about a visa.”
“CRISIS – The eurozone has failed” – “Define failed? If by still operating and growing, while being the second biggest economy and the ability to help millions of refugees – yeah, it’s failed.”
“AFTER – The EU is a diminishing trade power in the world” – “Where did you head this crap? It’s the second biggest economy in the world”
“CRISIS – We are losing more and more of our powers” – “12% of your laws come from the EU not the 60% Boris claimed! These laws protect our farmers and the most vulnerable.”
The campaigner finishes by calling someone (we’re not entirely sure who) a “xenophobic old man” and says “it’s not your future – it’s ours! Youth vote remain.”

 

[larus]

Get ready for the next Greek crisis....

https://euobserver.com/economic/133607

"...Greece has told its creditors it cannot implement some of the extra changes required in exchange for fresh bailout loans..."

There is an almighty storm brewing over this and with Portugal and Italy's financial woes and unemployment problems there is no way that the British can avoid getting dragged into this if we remain in the EU.

Italy is the really big problem. It's debt/GDP ration is about 130% and it needs to inflate its economy, but is constrained by the growth and stability pact. It's GDP so still 8% below he 2008 level. And so many want us to be tied to this complete shower of shit.