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[News] Charles Bronson Parole Hearing.



Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,035

The authorities are really between a rock and a hard place, they let him out despite being clearly institutionalised and he then reoffends the resulting shit storm would be the ultimate witchunt.

On the flip side, he’s an old man, if he has the correct care on the outside maybe he could have a peaceful existence?

Tough one.
How is it tough? He was given a life sentence. Life should mean life 🤷‍♂️
 




The Seagull

Well-known member
Jan 17, 2021
340
It’s a strange one. If he’s still a medium risk prisoner doesn’t that mean he’s still a risk ? I don’t care either way to be honest. That documentary the other night was interesting, especially his really fake ‘long lost son’ who also happened to be paparazzi. Who da thunk it 🙄
 


Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
5,477
It’s a strange one. If he’s still a medium risk prisoner doesn’t that mean he’s still a risk ? I don’t care either way to be honest. That documentary the other night was interesting, especially his really fake ‘long lost son’ who also happened to be paparazzi. Who da thunk it 🙄
I thought his son was genuine?

DNA tests and all that?
 


SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
5,732
London
My main concern about keeping him in the same conditions for the rest of his life is that he’ll probably end up killing someone inside, most likely a guard. After all, if he has no hope of release, he just won’t give a shit. Something I’m sure the parole board will be thinking about.
 


1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
15,185
There is a reason he is kept locked up 23 hours a day. His record of hostage taking and intimidation is horrendous. Ask yourself if you would like the responsibility of signing his release papers?

People talking about open prison conditions. This is a man who isn’t trusted on normal location in a Cat B prison. No way he can be paroled.
Another way of looking at that though is this.
Normal location in a Cat B prison is a pretty volatile place to be in. Much much more so than what I imagine an open prison environment is.
As for release into wider society? That's a completely different ball game.

Having just watched both episodes of the documentary, I don't think it will have done his case for release any favours.
 




Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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Another way of looking at that though is this.
Normal location in a Cat B prison is a pretty volatile place to be in. Much much more so than what I imagine an open prison environment is.
As for release into wider society? That's a completely different ball game.

Having just watched both episodes of the documentary, I don't think it will have done his case for release any favours.
Devils advocate.


If they moved him to HMP Ford, an aforementioned Open Nick, how would we all feel about him being on potential day release in either Worthing or Littlehampton town centres?
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
46,984
Gloucester
This publicity seeking clown just needs to hurry into the next life.
Hopefully someone will help him on his way soon. Hands up all those ultra-liberals who would like him moved into social housing, specially acquired for him, next door to them.

His civil rights, remember? ................... I'm waiting ................
 


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Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
51,003
Faversham

The authorities are really between a rock and a hard place, they let him out despite being clearly institutionalised and he then reoffends the resulting shit storm would be the ultimate witchunt.

On the flip side, he’s an old man, if he has the correct care on the outside maybe he could have a peaceful existence?

Tough one.
I suspect he has missed his chance for a Great Escape.
 




Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
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Another way of looking at that though is this.
Normal location in a Cat B prison is a pretty volatile place to be in. Much much more so than what I imagine an open prison environment is.
As for release into wider society? That's a completely different ball game.

Having just watched both episodes of the documentary, I don't think it will have done his case for release any favours.
That’s not actually true though. Normal location in a Cat B prison is supervised whereas Open conditions are much less so and prisoners are trusted to behave, much as they would be expected to behave in public. It is to help prisoners transition back to civvy street.

Reports that Bronson is on 23 hour lock-up may not be true. I can’t imagine him being considered for parole if he can’t be trusted on normal location.
 


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Oct 8, 2003
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Seems a complete fruit cake (with extra nuts) but maybe should be given a chance in an open prison and if he breaks any conditions there, then back he goes to full prison. As said he is 70, so less likely to do so much damage these days.

Considering the average time spent in jail for a murderer is 16.5 years in the UK, nearly 50 years does seem a bit excessive considering he hasn't killed anyone (yet).
But he has been a relentless knob head.
 






Clive Walker

Stand Or Fall
Jul 5, 2011
3,238
Brighton
His new son came across as a complete nut job too. Can’t see how any of that documentary will help a parole hearing.

It seems unfair that he has been behind bars longer than an individual that has killed someone, raped a child or beaten a woman. I also think that prisons are a violent place which breeds the kind of actions he’s been guilty of. He must have felt huge unfairness and mistreatment and given the treatment he has experienced I’m sure an explosion of violence is very possible. I’m not justifying his action but a little context does help.

If he can cope with the modern world which isn’t ruled by violence he should be fine. At 70 he is significantly less likely to be violent.

When was his last violent episode in prison? If it was 7 years plus then he’s served a significant sentence without a black mark. Easy enough if you’re isolated I guess.

Either way he’s gonna earn a few bib when he’s out.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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I wonder if Rwanda would take him? I’m sure Braverman has thought about sounding them out but as he has white skin and was born here, she’s probably more sympathetic to his cause.
 






1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,185
Devils advocate.


If they moved him to HMP Ford, an aforementioned Open Nick, how would we all feel about him being on potential day release in either Worthing or Littlehampton town centres?
Yes, I am playing Devil's advocate, but I'm also stating a fact. Normal location in a Cat B prison is a pretty volatile environment and the place most likely for an incident to happen. That applies to anyone in that environment, let alone someone with his record.

It would appear, from the documentary, that in the experiential Hull unit he was in, everything was fine until he found out about being moved or the unit being closed down. Then the horrific teacher hostage situation came about. And before you ask, I'm not trying to justify that action in anyway, just putting it into some context.
 


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Oct 8, 2003
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My main concern about keeping him in the same conditions for the rest of his life is that he’ll probably end up killing someone inside, most likely a guard. After all, if he has no hope of release, he just won’t give a shit. Something I’m sure the parole board will be thinking about.
No.

Would you release an Islamic Terrorist (sic) to avoid him killing a prison officer? Your logic is krunk.
 


portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
17,332
His publicity craving persona won’t have done him any favours I’m sure. The establishment will probably want to keep him locked up for that, so he doesn’t profit further. Regardless, what a sad life and pathetic creature. Ditto for the apparent legions of his fans. It’s a f***ed up world when people idolise such sociopaths as him and Putin.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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His new son came across as a complete nut job too. Can’t see how any of that documentary will help a parole hearing.

It seems unfair that he has been behind bars longer than an individual that has killed someone, raped a child or beaten a woman. I also think that prisons are a violent place which breeds the kind of actions he’s been guilty of. He must have felt huge unfairness and mistreatment and given the treatment he has experienced I’m sure an explosion of violence is very possible. I’m not justifying his action but a little context does help.

If he can cope with the modern world which isn’t ruled by violence he should be fine. At 70 he is significantly less likely to be violent.

When was his last violent episode in prison? If it was 7 years plus then he’s served a significant sentence without a black mark. Easy enough if you’re isolated I guess.

Either way he’s gonna earn a few bib when he’s out.
Context helps, but no way in the world is he suitable for release and no way anyone is going to sanction it.
 




1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
15,185
He has a right to go through the parole process. I really wouldn't worry though. HMP made up their mind loooong ago. He's never getting out.
No one can know for certain, but I tend to agree. A part of me thinks he knows this too. I suspect that what he wants most is his chance to put his side of the story to a world wide audience.
 


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Oct 8, 2003
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Hopefully someone will help him on his way soon. Hands up all those ultra-liberals who would like him moved into social housing, specially acquired for him, next door to them.

His civil rights, remember? ................... I'm waiting ................
I'm not an ultra liberal, but I think you're being a dick. No charge for that :thumbsup:.
 


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