Wilkins Out

[Yoda]

He won the pen against Gillingham. As far as I can see, that has been his sole contribution this season.

Pen was against Brentford.

 

[Les Biehn]

Pen was against Brentford.

Was it the step over against Gillingham?

 

[Yoda]

Was it the step over against Gillingham?

No Robinson scored with a side foot volley from Reid's cross against Gillingham.

 

[Les Biehn]

No Robinson scored with a side foot volley from Reid's cross against Gillingham.

f***, when was the step over? Did it result in anything?

 

[Hannibal smith]

I have to agree that only thing I have seen him do was win the pen against Gillingham. I think you may be right, it is the space between the words that is important.

I thought it was the pen against Brentford? - Anyway, He was excellent that day (well, apart from hacking thier player down to score from a free kick). I liked the fact he had 2 quick feet which bought tackles (including the pen) and kept possesion well. He almost scored our 3rd I seem to remember and a straw pool of 3 of us, 2 of us had him as our MOM.

Whilst we was anonymous against Forest he showed enough not to be jestisoned from the squad altogether - Its a worry for me if our Yoof players are going to be shown loyalty regardless of whether they are better or ready for the 1st team. Could land us in shit.

 

[Les Biehn]

I thought it was the pen against Brentford? - Anyway, He was excellent that day (well, apart from hacking thier player down to score from a free kick). I liked the fact he had 2 quick feet which bought tackles (including the pen) and kept possesion well. He almost scored our 3rd I seem to remember and a straw pool of 3 of us, 2 of us had him as our MOM.

Whilst we was anonymous against Forest he showed enough not to be jestisoned from the squad altogether - Its a worry for me if our Yoof players are going to be shown loyalty regardless of whether they are better or ready for the 1st team. Could land us in shit.

I think he is very tidy and this may well be why he makes it at a higher level but he just seemed to get lost in games when I saw him.

 

[Hannibal smith]

I think he is very tidy and this may well be why he makes it at a higher level but he just seemed to get lost in games when I saw him.

Certainly against Forest he was our weakest link in Midfield - I thought he was worth perservering with, he could have been a star in this team. It also makes me laugh that if McGhee had dropped him it would be a sign of another player fall out with a budding young star but with Wilkins its a sign of mangerial strength. (Not withstanding the brouhaha on here if Henderson had handed in a Transfer request if McGhee was here)

That's Football I suppose. Everyone thinks Steve Mclaren is alright at the moment.....

 

[Les Biehn]

Certainly against Forest he was our weakest link in Midfield - I thought he was worth perservering with, he could have been a star in this team. It also makes me laugh that if McGhee had dropped him it would be a sign of another player fall out with a budding young star but with Wilkins its a sign of mangerial strength. (Not withstanding the brouhaha on here if Henderson had handed in a Transfer request if McGhee was here)

That's Football I suppose. Everyone thinks Steve Mclaren is alright at the moment.....

Your not wrong. I think Wilkins felt we needed some fight in Midfield. Mind you he picked Frutos.

 

[Northstander]

Who ARE these people? Un-f***ing-believable.

 

[Easy 10]

It also makes me laugh that if McGhee had dropped him it would be a sign of another player fall out with a budding young star but with Wilkins its a sign of mangerial strength.

Not at all - if McGhee had dropped Stokes I would certainly have assumed it was because of his powder-puff performances in our midfield, and not because of some kind of falling out. Wilkins is quite justified in dropping Stokes. He didn't bring him here in the first place, and probably feels that Stokes offers nothing to our midfield that he couldn't already get from one of our own youngsters, be that Cox moving more central or bringing Fraser into the team.

 

[Hannibal smith]

Not at all - if McGhee had dropped Stokes I would certainly have assumed it was because of his powder-puff performances in our midfield, and not because of some kind of falling out. Wilkins is quite justified in dropping Stokes. He didn't bring him here in the first place, and probably feels that Stokes offers nothing to our midfield that he couldn't already get from one of our own youngsters, be that Cox moving more central or bringing Fraser into the team.

We will have to agree to differ Mr 10. I thought Stokes looked like a possible star of the midfield this year. I've no doubt Wilkins was within his rights to drop him but just that I thought he was better than the other options. Wilkins feels differently and I'm not really surprised given he has worked with the Youth team for years.

I think Ben's Grandad had it abour right earlier (no, really). We need a couple of wise old heads on loan.

 

[Yoda]

It also makes me laugh that if McGhee had dropped him it would be a sign of another player fall out with a budding young star but with Wilkins its a sign of mangerial strength. (Not withstanding the brouhaha on here if Henderson had handed in a Transfer request if McGhee was here)

Err! McGhee did drop him to the bench against Bristol City.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Stokes is much better than Tommy Fraser, I just hope its not going to be the old boys act, ie the youth team ala the Hinshelwood days as we know what happened then.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Stokes is much better than Tommy Fraser, I just hope its not going to be the old boys act, ie the youth team ala the Hinshelwood days as we know what happened then.

They are different players, Garth. Fraser is a holding midfielder, ie sit in front of the defence, win the ball, retain possession etc. Stokes is far more of a creative midfielder, getting forward etc.

 

[Rougvie]

Stokes is much better than Tommy Fraser

Based on WHAT exactly, they are entirely different types of player

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Because he did not give the ball away to the oppostion 5 times in a game.

 

[Les Biehn]

Because he did not give the ball away to the oppostion 5 times in a game.

Thats because he only touches it 2 times a match.

 

[London Irish]

They are different players, Garth. Fraser is a holding midfielder, ie sit in front of the defence, win the ball, retain possession etc.

That's what I thought too - what did you make him playing as a right winger then, you being such a fan of players playing in different positions?

 

[London Irish]

He won the pen against Gillingham.

No doubt someone who watches the game on a higher tactical level than myself (naming no names) will soon point out the crucial role that Stokes has so far played, and say something like "its no so much what he does, its what he doesn't do that is so important

Yes, he didn't win a penalty against the Gills, but he did win a penalty against Brentford

 

[Hungry Joe]

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