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Why was the Calais thread moved to "Other Stuff"?



Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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There have been asylum seekers at Calais for over 10 years. Why do you expect that there will be such a huge surge in numbers in the coming year?

Because the figures for 2013 were 1,000 now it is 3000........if they get through how many do you think it will be next year. By the way the figures were on our six o'clock news.
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Why not let them come? Process them, offer the real Asylum seekers refugee status and arrange deprotation for those who are bogus. Problem solved, no more migrants and asylume seekers in calais, locals able to get on with their lives. Same situation as every other country (well those that don't have the luxury of being an Island anyway) in the world finds themselves in.

The UK has pretty stingent processes to find out true asylum seekers, why not use them?
 


BadFish

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Because the figures for 2013 were 1,000 now it is 3000........if they get through how many do you think it will be next year. By the way the figures were on our six o'clock news.

Poor use of statistics there SM, to make any decent predictions you need to go back much further than two years.
 




Soulman

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Why not let them come? Process them, offer the real Asylum seekers refugee status and arrange deprotation for those who are bogus. Problem solved, no more migrants and asylume seekers in calais, locals able to get on with their lives. Same situation as every other country (well those that don't have the luxury of being an Island anyway) in the world finds themselves in.

The UK has pretty stingent processes to find out true asylum seekers, why not use them?

Have you any idea of the loopholes and time our "stringent processes" take......surely you remember the time and cost to rid us of Hamza and Qatada to name a couple.
 




pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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Why not let them come? Process them, offer the real Asylum seekers refugee status and arrange deprotation for those who are bogus. Problem solved, no more migrants and asylume seekers in calais, locals able to get on with their lives. Same situation as every other country (well those that don't have the luxury of being an Island anyway) in the world finds themselves in.

The UK has pretty stingent processes to find out true asylum seekers, why not use them?

why not tell the French to do that first
 


Bry Nylon

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Have you any idea of the loopholes and time our "stringent processes" take......surely you remember the time and cost to rid us of Hamza and Qatada to name a couple.

He lives in Australia...
 


Soulman

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Poor use of statistics there SM, to make any decent predictions you need to go back much further than two years.

We are in the NOW BF, the figures were from TODAY, the problem is NOW, you already stated "We are currently in the worst refugee situation since world war two"....so this problem was not as bad "to go back much further than two years".......was it.
 






skipper734

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Aug 9, 2008
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We should throw a ring of steel around Calais, when they've had enough we should demand they sacrifice five citizens as hostages, to prevent this sort of thing happening in future.

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BadFish

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why not tell the French to do that first

Completely agree. The UN conventions date back to 1953 so are in dire need of updating to reflect the modern world. We need a global solution to a global problem and an equitable share of responsibility to deal with it.
 






BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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We are in the NOW BF, the figures were from TODAY, the problem is NOW, you already stated "We are currently in the worst refugee situation since world war two"....so this problem was not as bad "to go back much further than two years".......was it.

I think you missed the point there SM. I was saying that you cannot use such a narrow range of statistics to make predictions.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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There have been asylum seekers at Calais for over 10 years. Why do you expect that there will be such a huge surge in numbers in the coming year?

The impending EU IN/OUT referendum might be a factor. They want to get into the UK before the possibility of the UK taking back control of its own borders.
 




gregbrighton

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Nothing will happen with this government simply because their friends, the big corporations and elite bankers who control them and the EU want cheap labour.

The Tories were big on running up to the 2010 General Election that want to curb immigration. Since they have got in they have done more or less nothing about it. You cannot trust this government.
 
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The French want the border moved back to UK, if we did that it would be an absolute disaster for this country. There would be hundreds of thousands of people making their way to the UK. Once these people land on our doorstep they would refuse to the leave the UK. Like the idiots we are in this country we would offer them the chance to appeal against deportation and once that was rejected we would them offer them another chance, and another chance after this. All this rubbish costs this country hundreds of millions of pounds a year, when the reality is the EU should be handling this situation at source, otherwise what are we paying 50 million pounds a day for. These people are illegal with a large majority being economic migrants using the problems in other countries as an excuse to try and get in to this country.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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This is a global issue which requires global cooperation to find a solution so the burden is spread equally. Doesn't matter where I live this problem is everywhere.

Agree. The way the English go on you'd think it was a problem unique to them.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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The impending EU IN/OUT referendum might be a factor. They want to get into the UK before the possibility of the UK taking back control of its own borders.

?? If 'they' are currently EU citizens then they can come to the UK without any issue. And if they're not, then EU membership is irrelevant. You post does not make sense.
 




D

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Nothing will happen with this government simply because their friends, the big corporations and elite bankers who control them and the EU want cheap labour.

The Tories were big on running up to the 2010 General Election that want to curb immigration. Since they have got in they have done more or less nothing about it. You cannot trust this government.

You can't trust any of them. They all fudge the question on the numbers. It will be 300,000+ next year and the year after that, not including the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants. Add to this further expansion of the EU, it's even more people. The Wkrs who push the shit through will be well away from it all, living on a nice big fat pension when the shit hits the fan.
 




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