Who is getting your vote in Euro Elections?

[disgruntled h blocker]

I was just joking with shut up Richie, don't worry I like you, I think you are a nice guy just a little misguided with views on Europe.

I think that voting for a single policy party in something as important as the European Elections is a little misguided. The UKIP is such a negative party, which does not see what benefits 'Europe' has done for the country as a whole.

We aren't a Norway with massive amounts of Oil and Gas (our reserves are now quite low) or Switzerland which is a naturally prosperous country. We need to open our eyes and see that we need Europe more than 'they' need us.

Much of our economic development in the last 20 years has been because of our location within Europe (which is very attractive for Asian and American companies that favour an English speaking workforce in Europe), and the fact that we still get a lot of economic development funding from Brussels.

 

[looney]

I think that voting for a single policy party in something as important as the European Elections is a little misguided. The UKIP is such a negative party, which does not see what benefits 'Europe' has done for the country as a whole.

What "Benefits". CAP? CFP? Our trade deficit or are net 1 billion contribution to the EU coffers. Regarding your username, this wouldn't have anything to do with wanting the monarch/UK subordanate would it?

We aren't a Norway with massive amounts of Oil and Gas (our reserves are now quite low) or Switzerland which is a naturally prosperous country. We need to open our eyes and see that we need Europe more than 'they' need us.

WE ARE like switzerland, in fact were a lot more wealthyier than them. We also have a permanent place on the UN Security Council which would go if our foreign policy became subordinate, does that rankle you a bit?

Many of our economic development in the last 20 years has been because of our location within Europe (which is very attractive for Asian and American companies that favour an English speaking workforce in Europe), and the fact that we still get a lot of economic development funding from Brussels.


Again.......... WE ARE A NET PAYER TO TH EU! Over 1 billion.


Most of the FDI(Foreign Dirrect Investment) over the last 20 years has been due to our competativness not cos we speak english, after all we are notorious at NOT speaking their languages.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

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Much of our economic development in the last 20 years has been because of our location within Europe (which is very attractive for Asian and American companies that favour an English speaking workforce in Europe), and the fact that we still get a lot of economic development funding from Brussels.

I think Looney has eloquantley ( sp? ) addressed the other issues you list.

We actually have 43%(ish) of our trade with EU members. What about the other 57% ? We will always have the same geographical location so will continue to be a favoured country for non-EU countries to be able to trade with the rest of Europe. We'ed have enough money to have our own economic development funding if we weren't part of the EU.

 

[disgruntled h blocker]

Looney, Just to confirm that my username has nothing to do with any political or ideological roots, just from the fact that when I first joined the 'old' NSC about 2 years ago, it was a comment of the people around me at the Withdean who were always moaning about Peter Taylor etc.. (thus distruntled), even when we were winning the Div 2 championship.

I am slightly pro-European, having 'seen the light' at Uni.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I think that we need to be part of Europe in order to safeguard or economic growth for the future. If we do not join the single european currency then the pound will be too strong and people will turn to cheaper european alternatives to our exports. It will also but the 43% or our trade (quoted above) in jeopardy.

Not to mention the fact that we need an influx of workers prepared to do low paid jobs in order to support our current economic growth, this is easier if we are a member of the EU because it means easier working migration for its member states. If this does not happen then in twenty to thirty years time we will need to literally import thousands of workers like we did in the 70s and immigration on that scale will result in higher levels of racial tension and segregation among communities.

 

[alan partridge]

anti-white/british

don't be a mong loon, ffs.

 

[Razi]

Not to mention the fact that we need an influx of workers prepared to do low paid jobs in order to support our current economic growth, this is easier if we are a member of the EU because it means easier working migration for its member states. If this does not happen then in twenty to thirty years time we will need to literally import thousands of workers like we did in the 70s and immigration on that scale will result in higher levels of racial tension and segregation among communities.

I'm not a supporter of bringing in any more immigrants - illegal or otherwise. I dont really like the fact that my taxes are being used to support their benefits. I'm sure that many agree with me on such an issue, and there'll obviously be those who disagree.

We could just get all the people who are being laid off from call centres due to outsourcing the work to New Delhi to do any of the low paid jobs that remain in the UK.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

The trouble is that many people in this country will not work in low paid jobs because they are generally as well off on benefits and there is a stigma attatched to crap jobs. I am against people coming in and milking our benefit system, but welcome anyone who is going to come here legally and get a job with open arms because they will be paying in to our benefot system through taxes.
I would rather have a hard working polish person here then some scally who refuses to work and sits on his arse all day watching Trisha and fathering ten kids!

 

[Mr C]

There are some benefits to being a member of the EU, but these are outweighed by the loss of control in certain key political areas.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The trouble is that many people in this country will not work in low paid jobs because they are generally as well off on benefits and there is a stigma attatched to crap jobs. I am against people coming in and milking our benefit system, but welcome anyone who is going to come here legally and get a job with open arms because they will be paying in to our benefot system through taxes.
I would rather have a hard working polish person here then some scally who refuses to work and sits on his arse all day watching Trisha and fathering ten kids!

Many people would agree with you, including myself, but being a member of the EU does not resolve this problem. If we were a fully independant state ( which we certainly are not ) we could allow workers in from any countries we wanted to - no need for EU membership to do that !!!

 

[looney]

Looney, Just to confirm that my username has nothing to do with any political or ideological roots, just from the fact that when I first joined the 'old' NSC about 2 years ago, it was a comment of the people around me at the Withdean who were always moaning about Peter Taylor etc.. (thus distruntled), even when we were winning the Div 2 championship.

I am slightly pro-European, having 'seen the light' at Uni.

Ok, but it was a reference tro your avatar as much as your nic


I am slightly pro-European, having 'seen the light' at Uni.


so the eurotrash slipped some psycotroppics in your booze eh?


seriously all I see are lies, rehtoric, scaremongering and other BS.


Alan partridge

when the foreign secratary of this Great nation goes around calling the people of this great nations mongrells/neandrathalls and their is not one call for his resignation then I am fully entitalled to question the lefts attitude as anti-white/british.


Jack Straw is a Racist.

 

[disgruntled h blocker]

When people discuss the apparent cost of the EU membership over the last few years, they should also remember how much of our industry is dependent on the our membership of this elite group of nations.

I don't think that Honda, Nissan, Sony etc. would have HQs in the UK without us being a part of the Europe, and I suggest that the revenues that these companies creates is much larger than the 1 billion cost of membership.

Hopefully are next step into Europe will be to sign up to the Schengen Agreement, allowing more ease of movement from the UK to other signed up nations.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Jack Straw is not a racist. I am a very patriotic englishman who happens to be believe that a united europe is the best way forward. This great country is full of mongrells and neanderthalls who are holding it back, i.e. the scally anti social tossers who are causing crime to increase. I am ashamed of some englishmen, as is Jack Straw. That makes neither of us racist.

 

[Raphael Meade]

despite ticking the bnp box in the poll i think i'll vote for the peace party.

no violence, or justice or environment sounds dandy to me

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I don't think that Honda, Nissan, Sony etc. would have HQs in the UK without us being a part of the Europe, and I suggest that the revenues that these companies creates is much larger than the 1 billion cost of membership.

Honda - that might be the case but I think you'll find that we're a member of the G7 group holds more sway. We also have a cheaper and more skilled workforce than France or Germany. This means that in or out they would probably invest here.

The 1 billion figure is actually wrong - it's closer to 14 billion a year. Enough to build a new fully equiped and fully staffed hospital in every town and city with over 100,000 people - still good value eh ?

 

[Mr C]

despite ticking the bnp box in the poll i think i'll vote for the peace party.

no violence, or justice or environment sounds dandy to me

How do they punish people? What is it... twenty lashes of a feather for serial murderers?

 

[Brighton Breezy]

How do they punish people? What is it... twenty lashes of a feather for serial murderers?

Hard tickling for an hour?

Get them stoned and then poke them with a stick whilst flashing bright lights at them and teasing them with doritos?

 

[looney]

Jack Straw is not a racist. I am a very patriotic englishman who happens to be believe that a united europe is the best way forward. This great country is full of mongrells and neanderthalls who are holding it back, i.e. the scally anti social tossers who are causing crime to increase. I am ashamed of some englishmen, as is Jack Straw. That makes neither of us racist.

Thats not what straw meant by mongral or what the word mongral means. So if I called Africans Mongralls based on the fact they have a wider gene variance I would not be a racist?

I'm pretty sure if I refereed to blacks as mongrells you, ap and all of your cronies would be squeeling racist.


Jack straw may not be a racist(I actually said his attitude to people), but tories and others have been forced to resign for similar utterances. The BNP loves this sort of thing. Just because JStraw is white does NOT make him Noble in any way. He's just another kind of ingnorant fool who should have resigned.

 

[beorhthelm]

I think voting for a single policy party in a election directly related to that issue is exactly the right time to do so.

As for the examples of Nissan and Honda, they set up camp in the UK because a) the UK is their largest European market, and b) they got big juicy grants to entice them here, presumably more than other european countries offered them.

 

[looney]

Honda - that might be the case but I think you'll find that we're a member of the G7 group holds more sway. We also have a cheaper and more skilled workforce than France or Germany. This means that in or out they would probably invest here.

The 1 billion figure is actually wrong - it's closer to 14 billion a year. Enough to build a new fully equiped and fully staffed hospital in every town and city with over 100,000 people - still good value eh ?

Your wrong on both accounts. G7 is irrelivant as world trade is dictated by Gatt rounds and the WTO. We do not have a more skilled work force, thatcher threw sweateners at the japs and they are not going anywere as the investment is more Capital intensive than poxy call centres. They just get spooked a bit when x-change rates wobble.


1 billion NET I was refering to.