[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Thunder Bolt]

Twas ever thus (maybe a bit worse under New Labour) ..

Dyke: Blair's world of 'lies and bullying'

·Ex-BBC chief says PM reneged on deal after Hutton report· Governors 'should resign' after bowing to No 10 pressure.

www.theguardian.com

 

[clapham_gull]

You know your trolling is getting desperate when you're having to dig out articles from 20 YEARS ago

He does make a far point though. All Governments are on the blower to the media (particularly the BBC) when they report a story in a way they don't like.

 

[Wokeworrier]

He does make a far point though. All Governments are on the blower to the media (particularly the BBC) when they report a story in a way they don't like.

Watching Alastair Campbell haranguing the BBC over caving in to government pressure is beyond parody ...

 

[WATFORD zero]

He does make a far point though. All Governments are on the blower to the media (particularly the BBC) when they report a story in a way they don't like.

I agree, and it's only taken him somewhere in excess of 8 years, 5 accounts, 20,000 posts and 20 years of newspaper articles to make a fair point

 

[Lever]

At least if we can get rid of this mendacious, bungling tory cabal, we can have a new, more serious government, whatever their relationship with the BBC

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Apparently hopeless secretary, Sue Ellen Braverman is in Rwanda right now, looking at arrangements for the deportation gambit.

The BBC also stated minutes ago that nobody has been sent there yet owing to legal challenges.

What the f***? Why can't a government minister get anything done. Shitehouse. Get Rid!

 

[jcdenton08]

Apparently hopeless secretary, Sue Ellen Braverman is in Rwanda right now, looking at arrangements for the deportation gambit.
The BBC also stated minutes ago that nobody has been sent there yet owing to legal challenges.

What the f***? Why can't a government minister get anything done. Shitehouse. Get Rid!

Mental. Absolute disgrace. I strongly suspect they have no plans where they are planning on sending these unfortunate people to or the quality of their care once there. They’re paying to get rid and it becomes someone else’s problem. It’s shameful.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Really thought he was going back to Henley. Will do well to hang on, awful MP

Boris Johnson reselected by Uxbridge Conservatives - BBC News

There had been speculation the former PM might try to find a safer seat before the next election.

www.bbc.co.uk

He might be fighting for his seat sooner than the next election.

Boris Johnson could face losing seat if found to have lied over partygate

The prime minister is being investigated over whether he misled parliament regarding lockdown parties in Downing Street, and the committee looking into it has now confirmed he would face suspension if found in contempt of parliament, which could lead to a by-election.

news.sky.com

 

[nicko31]

Saddle up for Johnson's defence...

I misled MPs, but not intentionally or recklessly

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That's alright then. Taxpayers paying thousands of pounds to his KC for his defence, and that is it

 

[Pavilionaire]

I misled you, but I did it in good faith. For once, Boris is telling the truth.

In his mind, "in good faith" will mean "honesty or sincerity of intention".

Effectively, he is saying "I misled you, and that was my honest and sincere intention".

 

[TomandJerry]

The DUP and ERG have rejected Sunaks deal on the NI issue.

The civil war will rumble on!

 

[chickens]

The DUP and ERG have rejected Sunaks deal on the NI issue.

The civil war will rumble on!

At this rate, Labour will be shaping the new agreement after the next general election. The ERG have been foolish here, their time of influence is, I very much suspect, drawing to a close.

 

[Reddleman]

I am absolutely sick to death of the ERG and their ‘influence’ on British politics. If Sunak had anything about him he would impose a three line whip and anyone who voted against the bill loses the whip. The bill would still pass with Labour support and finally they could lance the boil. He won’t though.

 

[Rdodge30]

At this rate, Labour will be shaping the new agreement after the next general election. The ERG have been foolish here, their time of influence is, I very much suspect, drawing to a close.

Ridiculous sabotage from the ERG

However Labour will bring with them their own equivalent with the Socialist Campaign Group within their parliamentary party

And so it goes and so it goes

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I misled you, but I did it in good faith. For once, Boris is telling the truth.

In his mind, "in good faith" will mean "honesty or sincerity of intention".

Effectively, he is saying "I misled you, and that was my honest and sincere intention".

Ignorance is no defence of the law.

Mistake or ignorance of law. Ignorance or mistake of law is no defence to a criminal charge; mens rea does not involve knowledge on the part of a defendant that his acts or omissions were against the law and constituted a crime1.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I am absolutely sick to death of the ERG and their ‘influence’ on British politics. If Sunak had anything about him he would impose a three line whip and anyone who voted against the bill loses the whip. The bill would still pass with Labour support and finally they could lance the boil. He won’t though.

I agree the bill will pass anyway and about the ERG's ongoing idiocy, but what boil will replacing Johnson's 'Northern Ireland Protocol' with May's 'Northern Ireland backstop', now rebranded Sunak's 'Windsor Framework' lance exactly ?

 

[MJsGhost]

Ignorance is no defence of the law.

Mistake or ignorance of law. Ignorance or mistake of law is no defence to a criminal charge; mens rea does not involve knowledge on the part of a defendant that his acts or omissions were against the law and constituted a crime1.

Is this not about the parliamentary code of conduct rather than the law?

He's trying to say he didn't intentionally mislead the House, even though the investigation suggests that what he said was wrong.

Any sane person would look at the circumstances and decide that he knew enough AT THE TIME to know that the parties were against the rules and therefore he deliberately misled the House with his statements about them, but he has spent a sh|t-tonne of taxpayer's money on Lord Pannick to try and wheedle out on a technicality again.

Someone just needs to put the scruffy c**t in the bin, then in the sea, then on a slowboat to Rwanda

 

[rippleman]

Is this not about the parliamentary code of conduct rather than the law?

He's trying to say he didn't intentionally mislead the House, even though the investigation suggests that what he said was wrong.

Any sane person would look at the circumstances and decide that he knew enough AT THE TIME to know that the parties were against the rules and therefore he deliberately misled the House with his statements about them, but he has spent a sh|t-tonne of taxpayer's money on Lord Pannick to try and wheedle out on a technicality again.

Someone just needs to put the scruffy c**t in the bin, then in the sea, then on a slowboat to Rwanda

Is that before or after he has been ploughed into The Clamp's ditch?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Is this not about the parliamentary code of conduct rather than the law?

He's trying to say he didn't intentionally mislead the House, even though the investigation suggests that what he said was wrong.

Any sane person would look at the circumstances and decide that he knew enough AT THE TIME to know that the parties were against the rules and therefore he deliberately misled the House with his statements about them, but he has spent a sh|t-tonne of taxpayer's money on Lord Pannick to try and wheedle out on a technicality again.

Someone just needs to put the scruffy c**t in the bin, then in the sea, then on a slowboat to Rwanda

He's saying nobody told him it was wrong, or that is the way I have read it.