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chickens

Have you considered masterly inactivity?
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Oct 12, 2022
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No mate. You keep playing the 'self-employed' card when he earns over a mill on one of the highest viewed progs.

Desperate.

Gary Lineker is self-employed. This has all been gone over before. He has multiple gigs and business interests. The BBC may well be a lucrative gig, but he has plenty of others, and the BBC can’t afford to make him an employee.

There’s nothing desperate about it ‘mate’, it’s a fact.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
24,289
Sussex by the Sea
Gary Lineker is self-employed. This has all been gone over before. He has multiple gigs and business interests. The BBC may well be a lucrative gig, but he has plenty of others, and the BBC can’t afford to make him an employee.

There’s nothing desperate about it ‘mate’, it’s a fact.
I'm sure he'll be more than happy to give it all to the cause then.
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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I'm sure in a world where the lives of the wealthy with big houses are scrutinised and criticised on a regular basis, then an empty statement from the comfort of your vast and expensive wine cellar must be taken with a pinch of salt.
The only part of this that matters is that you think his comment is 'empty'. It's fine to disagree but why don't you address his words and show why they are wrong froma historical perspective.

Stop with the word salad and get to the point man

You've got a history scholar on this thread to trade evidence with so it will be interesting.
 




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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So how far does this “everyone at the BBC must be impartial at all times about everything” argument go? Are they banned from voting in those people’s minds? Can they not express a preference for tea or coffee?
 




Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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No mate. You keep playing the 'self-employed' card when he earns over a mill on one of the highest viewed progs.

Desperate.
I couldn’t give a toss how much he earns, it makes absolutely no difference. The fact that he pissed of a small but gobby and easily offended part of the population is a bonus.
let’s face it he could work for free and you’d still whinge.
 




chickens

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I'm sure he'll be more than happy to give it all to the cause then.

I’m baffled by you sometimes. You’ve got a brain, but surely you can spot the bizarre logical fallacies you’re indulging in?

By that logic:

a) each British citizen should only be allowed one cause or interest.

b) the citizen should donate all their wealth to that cause or interest.

Do you live by the rules above yourself, or do you just set them for others?
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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So how far does this “everyone at the BBC must be impartial at all times about everything” argument go? Are they banned from voting in those people’s minds? Can they not express a preference for tea or coffee?
Anything so people can avoid discussing the actual opinion that they disagree with.

The triggered woke right are all in a tiz 🤣
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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I couldn’t give a toss how much he earns, it makes absolutely no difference. The fact that he pissed of a small but gobby and easily offended part of the population is a bonus.
let’s face it he could work for free and you’d still whinge.
So, you're saying that:
-- there's not many of them (check out GBNews' ratings, or Reform in the polls)
-- they've got multiple platforms funded by off-shore oligarchs (engaging in faux-nationalism) from which they loud-hailer their vile bile
-- they're snowflakes

Sounds about right
 




Rdodge30

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Dec 30, 2022
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Hi, history MA with a specialism in Twentieth Century Europe here. Do you seriously think the Germans went from 0 to 100 overnight on this issue? Because if not, your post makes no sense. Literally nobody has claimed the Government is executing a holocaust. What they’re saying is the demonising and “othering” not just of refugees but of all sorts of targets has echoes of the early stages of the process that led to a very dark place.

Which it does. Take it from a historian.
But only relevant if the original statement (Lineker) intended to imply what then followed would follow now.

Poor choice of words from Lineker (nothing more) but deliberately used no doubt
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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Mid Sussex
But only relevant if the original statement (Lineker) intended to imply what then followed would follow now.

Poor choice of words from Lineker (nothing more) but deliberately used no doubt
i Understood what he was driving at and so do most others. He hit a nerve and that normally means that there is truth in what he says.
 


Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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But only relevant if the original statement (Lineker) intended to imply what then followed would follow now.

Poor choice of words from Lineker (nothing more) but deliberately used no doubt
If the UK bars a group of people from recourse to the law, as is proposed, that is a massive step in that direction.
 






A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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But only relevant if the original statement (Lineker) intended to imply what then followed would follow now.

Poor choice of words from Lineker (nothing more) but deliberately used no doubt
Not necessarily, you can point out that something resembles something else without saying the end result will be exactly the same. If someone matches Vicente’s run but rather than smashing it off the crossbar they stick it in the top corner are we not allowed to say it resembled Vicente’s run because the end result was different?
 


Cotton Socks

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Feb 20, 2017
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One of the questions on Jnr's Nazi Germany GCSE history revision the other day was to pick 3 points from a simplified version of Hitlers 25 point plan & give reasons why they would've been voted for & who would've voted for them. I found myself disturbed that I was able to make (in my view) to many direct comparisons to what is happening in politics now.
 






Hugo Rune

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One of the questions on Jnr's Nazi Germany GCSE history revision the other day was to pick 3 points from a simplified version of Hitlers 25 point plan & give reasons why they would've been voted for & who would've voted for them. I found myself disturbed that I was able to make (in my view) to many direct comparisons to what is happening in politics now.
Correct.

“Stop the boats” is not a world away from this:


8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.
 


WATFORD zero

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I'm sure he'll be more than happy to give it all to the cause then.
I may not have mentioned it, but I'm in Austria for a week skiing with few mates and don't have a lot of free time, so try not to say anything too stupid and I'll be back in a few days to help out, before you get carried away and really embarrass yourself ................ oh :wink:
 
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