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No, no it isn't and no (as you know) I wasn't.
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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No, no it isn't and no (as you know) I wasn't.
The Clamp
Well-known member
The Tory party are attempting to break international human rights law. Our government. In the U.K. In the 21st century.
And the morons are up in arms over Linekar quite rightly saying it’s cruel and it’s similar to rhetoric used in 1930’s Germany.
I’ll just repeat that again. Our government is attempting to break international human rights law.
International human rights law.
And the morons are up in arms over Linekar quite rightly saying it’s cruel and it’s similar to rhetoric used in 1930’s Germany.
I’ll just repeat that again. Our government is attempting to break international human rights law.
International human rights law.
The Clamp
Well-known member
Sunak meeting Macron today to figure out how big the bribe is going to be from the taxpayers purse, for the French to stop small boats.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 19,969
I've been hearing that those human rights laws, (or was it the agreement?) were written by Churchill too.
The clot heads were getting angry about his statue a couple of years ago but don't give two shifts about his legacy.
The Clamp
Well-known member
Not really sure what you mean.
Are the same people who attacked his statue the same people who think his human rights legacy should be protected?
Sauce?
Additionally, please don’t get sucked into the Tory’s divisive rhetoric, you’re a far better poster than that.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 19,969
No the clots don't care about his human rights legacy. They seem happy to have that destroyed.
The Clamp
Well-known member
I’m sorry, I think I have misunderstood your post.
The Clamp
Well-known member
Europe’s far right praise UK’s illegal migration bill
Alternative für Deutschland leaders were among those lauding Sunak’s bill, while other EU figures raised doubts about its legality
www.theguardian.com
Sorry for the tangent.
Earlier this week I was listening to an American rewatch of the original Purge (pre Trump) film.
Lots of talk of the foreshadowing, one contributor less convinced than the other.
Until finally the fella who needed convincing had to concede in post Trump America it was more likely a presidential candidate would offer up a Purge policy.
They'd be shouted down and labelled a sociopath but they agreed, crucially, it would still be out there.
Strange times indeed.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
…yep let them keep coming…plenty of room …no housing…infrastructure ….hospital issues …more the merrier
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
But wasn’t Nazi Germany the state for most of the 1930’s
- Oct 12, 2022
- 3,182
The boats are coming for the following reasons:
1. This Conservative government has closed legal migration routes. Not through necessity, but as a political choice.
2. This Conservative government has failed to lead or engage in meaningful international diplomacy that lowers the number of people who feel they need to leave their home country in the first place. We have cut international aid and largely abdicated our responsibilities on the world stage.
I’m happy to hear how this new Conservative plan addresses these issues?
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
The boats are coming because we are a soft touch
The Clamp
Well-known member
All of which are the Tory’s fault.
As is the failure to get control of our borders and ensure legitimate asylum seekers are given safe passage.
This is a Tory problem. Not a migrant problem.
The Clamp
Well-known member
Please explain. Can we have some considered detail to back up this claim? Genuinely, what evidence do you have of this?
- Oct 12, 2022
- 3,182
No. Boat crossings were rare when legal migration routes were available. The Conservative Party has exacerbated the problem massively via its current policies.
When migrants arrived through legal channels, we had the ability to measure their claims, grant asylum to those who genuinely needed it, and deport those whose claims were not valid. We have now lost that ability.
We’re all poorer as a result of this stupidity.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
We aren’t going to agree which is fine…but I’d say a bit of both …I can see from the posts it’s not a popular view but hey ..I think differently ..shrug
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Lol….as if you would take any notice
The bias against anything Tory clouds a lot in my view and I’m not a supporter
I'd argue that by constantly trying to look "hard" with our increasingly draconian anti-migrant policies and communications, it's having the opposite effect. As others have said, I don't recall mass boat crossings being an issue under Cameron (a Tory, by the way to things were working alright back then) but became a huge problem after the May government.
If only there were some event that we could point to that drove a massive anti-migrant, hostile environment ideology and ramp-up in immigration policy changes...
The Clamp
Well-known member
I thought not. Sorry Lamie but you’ve embarrassed yourself there. But don’t worry. I had no expectation that you could back up your claims.Lol….as if you would take any notice
The bias against anything Tory clouds a lot in my view and I’m not a supporter
Believe me, if any party came up with some of these Tory policies, I’d be very critical of them too. More so as I’d expect better.
I think your dislike of immigrants clouds your judgement. Or maybe it’s your unwillingness to have a look at the facts and your haste to take the anti-immigration rhetoric as true.
For someone who claims not to support the Tory’s, you sure do spend a lot of time defending their policies.
But fine, we’ll try it your way. Let’s see if
A) this latest scheme is even legal
B) it achieves the desired results
I’ll be over here on the edge of my seat.