[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[A1X]

 

[nicko31]

Can that really be true?

 

[jimhigham]

Can that really be true?

Certainly seems to be. What a dreadful piece of messsaging, caused entirely by their own lunacy.

 

[TomandJerry]

Climate campaigners and politicians have reacted with fury to the news that the UK climate change minister, Graham Stuart, has returned to London from Cop28

Francesca Rhodes, of Care International UK, said: “If the reports are accurate, it is staggering that the UK government has no ministers attending the final critical days of Cop28. These negotiations will decide the fate of millions of people facing floods, fires and famine due to the climate crisis. The UK has played a productive role in the talks so far but leaving early is simply shameful. Time and again, wealthy countries have let down low-income countries. The latest text was deeply disappointing and does not keep 1.5C alive. When the UK should be standing up for marginalised communities, including women and girls

 

[Audax]

The fact Rishi feels he needs to call a minister back says to me is that he can't be certain he has the numbers to be able to pass the Rwanda bill today.

I'm sure it will pass - would take a rebellion on seismic proportions for it not to - but just the act of needing to call the minister back tells us everything we need to know about how weak his position as PM currently is.

 

[MJsGhost]

Climate campaigners and politicians have reacted with fury to the news that the UK climate change minister, Graham Stuart, has returned to London from Cop28

Francesca Rhodes, of Care International UK, said: “If the reports are accurate, it is staggering that the UK government has no ministers attending the final critical days of Cop28. These negotiations will decide the fate of millions of people facing floods, fires and famine due to the climate crisis. The UK has played a productive role in the talks so far but leaving early is simply shameful. Time and again, wealthy countries have let down low-income countries. The latest text was deeply disappointing and does not keep 1.5C alive. When the UK should be standing up for marginalised communities, including women and girls

Well OBVIOUSLY, a minister who will vote with the PM on his flagship Rwanda policy needs to be back in Westminster today.

Saving face over a binfire of a policy is OBVIOUSLY more important than saving the World from actual fire isn't it? Isn't it?

Isn't it?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Aside from the obvious point about priorities, the fact that in 2023 someone can't vote remotely is nuts

 

[The Clamp]

Maybe Rwanda is a safer bet?

Asylum seeker on Bibby Stockholm barge believed to have killed himself

A spokesman for No 10 confirmed the reported death onboard vessel in Portland, Dorset, was being investigated

www.theguardian.com

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It's beginning to look a lot like game over for Sunak and this thoroughly discredited Tory regime

 

[A1X]

 

[A1X]

The fact Rishi feels he needs to call a minister back says to me is that he can't be certain he has the numbers to be able to pass the Rwanda bill today.

 

[pb21]

I thought there was a mechanism to allow vote swapping or similar?

Certainly should be if not, or a way to vote without missing out on more important issues.

 

[nicko31]

It's beginning to look a lot like game over for Sunak and this thoroughly discredited Tory regime

Whatever happens this lot are going to hang around as long as possible just like 1997

 

[KZNSeagull]

I thought there was a mechanism to allow vote swapping or similar?

Certainly should be if not, or a way to vote without missing out on more important issues.

There is. Someone from the opposite party drops out if someone cannot attend a vote. It happens all the time.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Whatever happens this lot are going to hang around as long as possible just like 1997

Don't reckon another leadership contest would do their prospects any good at all. There's only so many times they can rearrange the deckchairs. The country must be heartily sick of us acting like a banana republic shirley?

 

[pb21]

There is. Someone from the opposite party drops out if someone cannot attend a vote. It happens all the time.

Thought so, so why is he flying home for the vote, if he is?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Thought so, so why is he flying home for the vote, if he is?

 

[Pavilionaire]

Given this is a free vote, with so many Tory MPs wavering on this Rwanda bill you wonder whether this terrible snub to our commitment to climate change might cause one MP - perhaps more - to change their mind and vote against Rishi.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I thought there was a mechanism to allow vote swapping or similar?

Certainly should be if not, or a way to vote without missing out on more important issues.

I thought Rishi said it would be a free vote and the MPs would not be whipped, therefore no pairing?

 

[pb21]

Reading some of the comments I saw this tweet from Pippa Crerar, seems its because its a three-line whip; what an absolute pathetic state of affairs.