Lower West Stander
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I want to know what Kuenssberg and Pesto think.
Cos they know everything.....
Cos they know everything.....
[News] The Truth is out there
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highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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God only knows what the truth of any of this is.
But Cummings is doing to Johnson exactly what he did to Corbyn. Using his pet media to throw so much mud that some will stick in people's minds. So if you believed all the media hype about Corbyn, then you should be lapping this up.
But Cummings is doing to Johnson exactly what he did to Corbyn. Using his pet media to throw so much mud that some will stick in people's minds. So if you believed all the media hype about Corbyn, then you should be lapping this up.
blue-shifted
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I believe that BJ said it, or something very similar. Not the kind of thing you splash all over your front page - even if you're the Daily Mail - unless you can back it up (audio recording etc). Let's see BJ bluff and bluster his way through THIS one
Willing to bet with you that it doesn't materially affect either opinion polls or May elections materially
- Jul 10, 2003
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ITV host Robert Peston has waded into the No 10 vs Dominic Cummings briefing war – denying that the former top aide was the source of the leaked story on second lockdown plans last October. “The “chatty rat” who contacted me was not Cummings,” Peston writes in his latest blog – discussing a message received from a government source on 30 October.
“I can tell you that the text was not from Cummings or anyone within a mile of him. “And the reason I can share that with you, without breaching journalistic etiquette, should be obvious: if the text had come from Cummings, I would have put the news straight out, since he was a “horse’s mouth” authority on this stuff.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-cummings-flat-bodies-b1837468.html
Robert Peston, ITV’s political editor, has written a blog saying he has spoken to two sources who heard Boris Johnson make the comment that he would rather see bodies pile high than order a third lockdown. Peston writes:
I am told he shouted it in his study just after he agreed to the second lockdown “in a rage”. The doors to the cabinet room and outer office were allegedly open and supposedly a number of people heard.
I am bothering to repeat this assertion about what the prime minister said because two eyewitnesses - or perhaps I should say “ear witnesses” - have corroborated the Daily Mail’s account to me.
Also these sources insist they did not brief the Mail, so that suggests there are three sources.
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Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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As of 12:40, BBC top 3 Main Headlines are, in order:
1. Oscars glory
2. Zaghari-Ragcliffe sentencing
3. BJ flat revamp
Neville's Breakfast
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Fair point and I suppose the reverse is also true ie if you didn’t believe the media about Corbyn then you shouldn’t believe them about Johnson. Something tells me though that most will arrange their beliefs along tribal lines instead. I see the Cummings as the source idea has been denied. Really if we don’t know who is saying something it is impossible to take a view on whether it is true or not. Many people solve this conundrum by believing what they want to believe.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Shameful by BBC. Main lunchtime news still just banging on about BJ's poxy flat refurbishment, rather than the DM allegations that, if substantiated, will see him crash and burn in disgrace 
- Jul 17, 2003
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Given the attitude of some, such as the pub owner who attacked Keir Starmer for not fighting against the lockdowns because it's 'only old people dying' (the attitude suggested by his comments about the average age of people dying being in their 80s), you have to wonder if there are people who will view this as a good thing - BJ wanted to let them continue making money with open businesses, but was forced to lockdown the country by others who don't care about them like BJ does.
- Sep 3, 2010
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I have no idea whether this is true or not but if it's a lie it's a good one. It's exactly the sort of thing you can imagine him saying. I find it interesting that those who normally believe everything they read in the Daily Mail are dismissing the story and those who wouldn't believe a single word from it under normal circumstances are lapping it up. If nothing else, both sides of the political divide are predictable.
If Cummings has tapes, he's broken every security rule in the book I'd imagine.
If Cummings has tapes, he's broken every security rule in the book I'd imagine.
blue-shifted
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Shameful by BBC. Main lunchtime news still just banging on about BJ's poxy flat refurbishment, rather than the DM allegations that, if substantiated, will see him crash and burn in disgrace
I suppose it could be that they doubt the story is true or simply haven't seen any evidence so don't feel that they can run the story based on what one tabloid (with a reputation for breaktaking insincerity) has been told by a former adviser (with a reputation for breaktaking insincerity).
Personally I like news outlets to only run news that they have a reasonable belief may be true. Old fashioned as I am
the DM allegations that, if substantiated, will see him crash and burn in disgrace
They will be substantiated but really won’t affect his that much with the current Parliamentary majority; he only has Tory back-stabbers to worry about and they’ll be too cowardly to act until after the next election.
His core support know what he is. They are prepared to accept comments like that because he took us out of the EU. He will continue to get their support whilst he pursues populist agendas.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Seems to be good enough for ITN and Sky News @ 13:15
But not for BBC News - who are clearly running scared of their own shadow and their licence fee
Si Gull
Way Down South
BBC News - Boris Johnson said 'bodies could pile high' during lockdown discussion
Being reported by the BBC now.........https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56890714
Being reported by the BBC now.........https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56890714
Fu*k me, what a choice of who is the most believable. The fact the mail would turn against one of their own points to it being true.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Hurrah BBC finally (grudgingly?) made the correct call to stop cravenly kowtowing to their licence fee paymasters in order to retain some modicum of credibility. End game for BJ now
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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Where to start with that!