The trains

[tedebear]

Southern used to stuff up once, maybe twice a fortnight when I was travelling to London, and yes although I paid around £3200 for the pleasure of their service, it was often not their fault.

It did suprise me when I first came to this land how poor the transport services were, but to drag an archaic track and rolling stock system to the modern era is going to take more than a few years. But its better than nothing!

I nearly didn't get off at Shoreham the first time I came here as I didn't realize you had to open the doors yourself (slam door train)! Luckily someone behind me shoved me out of the way and opened it whilst looking at me weirdly!!

Shame there are so many moaners in this country..

 

[Virgo's Haircut]

Out of interest, what sort of thing have they done to piss off the staff? What was a mediocre service anyway plummeted further almost from the second they took over.

This is only what I've heard from staff, so I can't guaruntee it's 100% correct.

They have sacked their driver managers made them re-apply for their jobs then said they are not successful.

Refused to budge on pay rises where as Thameslink had an agreement in place for a rise each year.

Cut Xmas bonus by 50%.

Taking drivers "off track" effectivly suspending them, using the excuse they are not competent to do their job. One driver had apparently being driveing trains for 23 years without any incident.

Morale is VERY low at FCC at the moment, and there is talk of indutrial action.

The way FCC are headed they won't keep their franchise for very long.

 

[Guinness Boy]

It did suprise me when I first came to this land how poor the transport services were,

Then again the train service from Cronnella in to the Sydney CBD isn't exactly the Shinkansen is it

Just proves how rubbish it used to be that you found it worse here

 

[tedebear]

Then again the train service from Cronnella in to the Sydney CBD isn't exactly the Shinkansen is it

Just proves how rubbish it used to be that you found it worse here

Cronulla to the city is a big commute, and having done it for a few years I never had cancellations, or delays, although often had heaving trains in sweltering conditions until the Tangara came in...

Still was better than what I found here...

 

[Stumpy Tim]

I wish FRANK was a commuter, as this debate would be NSC GOLD. But he's unemployed unfortunately

 

[Virgo's Haircut]

Just to cheer you all up...

Train services between Gatwick Airport and Haywards Heath are being disrupted due to a landslip. North bound line is currently blocked.

 

[tedebear]

I wish FRANK was a commuter, as this debate would be NSC GOLD. But he's unemployed unfortunately

C'Mon Stumpy keep up - he's got a new contract starting soon I believe, and he did it without the aid of an AGENCY!! But I shouldn't say that word should I....

 

[Stumpy Tim]

C'Mon Stumpy keep up - he's got a new contract starting soon I believe, and he did it without the aid of an AGENCY!! But I shouldn't say that word should I....

I saw your Mum's number in a phonebox last week etc

 

[Bozza]

Refused to budge on pay rises where as Thameslink had an agreement in place for a rise each year.

Should someone get a pay rise as a matter of course every year?

Shouldn't it be a case of proving, through your performance, that a pay rise is justified?

 

[tedebear]

I saw your Mum's number in a phonebox last week etc

Yes - she's advertising her knitting services - Frank could do with some woollen underwear for his chilly disposition...

 

[Virgo's Haircut]

Should someone get a pay rise as a matter of course every year?

Shouldn't it be a case of proving, through your performance, that a pay rise is justified?

Yes, but it was an agreement between train operator and union. Part of a 3 year deal I believe.

 

[Simster]

I wish FRANK was a commuter, as this debate would be NSC GOLD. But he's unemployed unfortunately

I was about to post that very same TITBIT, young Timmy.

Where is FRANK anyway? I miss the sad old robbing twat.

 

[British Bulldog]

Southerns performance has got signifcantly better than two years ago. These are official fact from rail regualtors, not me. I quite agree with you that it's a joke when you hear the same old announcements about lack of rolling stock or a signal faliure. Unfortunatly it's the time of year when the weather is the enemy of the railway too.

Do you want to go back to 4 years ago when Connex were in charge with 40 year old trains?

Southern has invested millions of ££'s into new trains and making stations safer and cleaner. Since they have taken over all the slam door trains have gone. This is the opposite of First Capital Connect who have pissed off many, both passengers and staff.

FCC are very good to work with on service recovery where as Southern are a right pain in the bum, The only thing that motivates Southern is money and how much of it they can claim from other rail companies in panalties.

 

[British Bulldog]

Southerns performance has got signifcantly better than two years ago. These are official fact from rail regualtors, not me.

I beg to differ a bit there VH. In real terms Southern's delays are just as bad as they've allways been it's just they're ability to push they're delays onto other rail companies thats improved.

 

[Ernest]

I beg to differ a bit there VH. In real terms Southern's delays are just as bad as they've allways been it's just they're ability to push they're delays onto other rail companies thats improved.

But that is the name of the game nowadays

 

[British Bulldog]

But that is the name of the game nowadays

Yeah and what a crap game it is too! Give me BR any day fella at least we all worked for the same company and pulled in the same direction in those days, unlike the shambles we've got now!

 

[British Bulldog]

Should someone get a pay rise as a matter of course every year?

Shouldn't it be a case of proving, through your performance, that a pay rise is justified?

If thats the case Bozza then I should be due a substabtial pay rise next year but I just know it wont happen! My performance goes up every year because it has too, just to keep pace with the extra work load.

 

[Beach Hut]

Yeah and what a crap game it is too! Give me BR any day fella at least we all worked for the same company and pulled in the same direction in those days, unlike the shambles we've got now!

However we would still be on shit pay whereas in the private sector we get better money.

Can't have it bothways

 

[Springal]

Oh what a suprise go to get the 05:20 to portsmouth harbour from Brighton this morning after a heavy night out and a rails broken at Shoreham so we all need to get the bus back to Worthing.

 

[British Bulldog]

Oh what a suprise go to get the 05:20 to portsmouth harbour from Brighton this morning after a heavy night out and a rails broken at Shoreham so we all need to get the bus back to Worthing.

It was a bit inconsiderate having a broken rail right in the middle of a river bridge!