The Scale of the Universe

[gripper stebson]

There is gnostic atheism and agnostic atheism, perhaps I should have been more specific. Nothing is wrong with admitting you don't know, but claiming that no form of deity is responsible for existence isn't just ignorant - it's irrational - and the burden of proof is on them.

Patronising and ridiculous.

I personally believe that the universe was formed after a watermelon went toxic and exploded into a million pieces. Each piece formed a planet or a star. Each star / planet is actually made of sausage meat. That's what I believe and until you can disprove this Mustafa then it's you who has the problem.

A silly example but not much sillier than the bible version.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Is it as far fetched as a bearded chap living in the sky somewhere making it in seven days a few thousand years ago? No, no it's not is it.

I had the age old argument regarding dinosaur fossils with a pretty devout Christian chap the other day. He told me the Devil had put them there as a diversion! This, as far as he was concerned, was the end of the argument.

The older (and hopefully wiser) I get the more religion seems utterly ludicrous. Invented by man to control the masses...

you find it ludicrous because you seem to be looking at it (christianity) as a bit of a caricature of what it is to most

i know you're being a bit flippant (as tends to happen in this kind of 'debate') but most christians don't share the views of your 'devout christian chap'...

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

I am always amazed by people - who I had always previously considered sound - when they start talking about their beliefs in a god.

and then you stop considering them 'sound'?

odd

 

[Stat Brother]

At least we can all agree its a funky little widget.
#clutchingatstraws.

 

[gripper stebson]

you find it ludicrous because you seem to be looking at it (christianity) as a bit of a caricature of what it is to most

i know you're being a bit flippant (as tends to happen in this kind of 'debate') but most christians don't share the views of your 'devout christian chap'...

I agree I am simplifying things a bit! However, the issue of 'burden of truth' lying with the atheists is ridiculous and infuriating. See my 'even more flippant' watermelon analogy!!!

 

[Bold Seagull]

you find it ludicrous because you seem to be looking at it (christianity) as a bit of a caricature of what it is to most

i know you're being a bit flippant (as tends to happen in this kind of 'debate') but most christians don't share the views of your 'devout christian chap'...

That's because most Christians believe what suits them!

 

[edna krabappel]

Never mind these God v the Big Bang arguments, there is a massive thing in that scale called Gomez's Hamburger. It's about the same size as the Hourglass Nebula, but a bit smaller than a light year.

Why on EARTH aren't we having a discussion about that? Space has a giant HAMBURGER, and you're all arguing about God?

 

[LargeHadronZugzwang]

To paraphrase Gervais (when he used to be funny), I'm sure there's alot of nitpicking there. And the beetle counters have got new species quotas to fill. "it's new. It's a... Slightly Dungier Beetle"

...ah yes, a well known Comedian engaging in platitudes. Plus ça change.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

That's because most Christians believe what suits them!

not really....i believe what i believe based on my own personal experiences, which lead me to really struggle not to believe in God. It doesn't 'suit' me at all. I won't be losing any sleep over the fact that people on a message board don't share my beliefs...I imagine the amount of conversions from internet message boards is fairly low

 

[Stat Brother]

Why on EARTH aren't we having a discussion about that? Space has a giant HAMBURGER, and you're all arguing about God?

Who was clearly hungry when he went shopping.

 

[edna krabappel]

Who was clearly hungry when he went shopping.

Hmmm. I've always thought God would be the vegetarian type.

 

[bomber130]

If god created the universe where was he living prior to creating it because wasn't there Fu c k all before the universe was formed. Just a thought, but I'm sure the NSC mafia will have an answer.

 

[jgmcdee]

Hmmm. I've always thought God would be the vegetarian type.

What, he made cows and then wouldn't eat them? You're just derailing a perfectly sensible thread with this nonsense.

 

[Eggmundo]

The notion of every week, hordes of people gathering in one place to sing songs- purporting ridiculous statements, worshiping and working themselves in to a frenzy, based on the possibilities that there will be a 'better tomorrow'. Idolising individuals and refusing to believe the facts laid out before them by other, rival sects, in a attempt to draw them to their own, equally pointless belief.

Ridiculous!

 

[gripper stebson]

Religion was 'invented' a few thousand years ago when people knew no better. As far as they were concerned the earth was flat, the moon was as far as space stretched and a 'God' was the only possible explanation for life.

Now we do know better. The universe is insanely big (see OP), fossils have been found proving, yes proving, life existed here 100 million years ago. These two simple truths cannot be explained away by a religion that sticks to the Bible - unless you are willing to bend the rules a bit...

It is staggering how much influence religion still has on this planet.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Hmmm. I've always thought God would be the vegetarian type.

... explained by the fact that always wears sandals in the movies.

 

[Frutos]

The notion of every week, hordes of people gathering in one place to sing songs- purporting ridiculous statements, worshiping and working themselves in to a frenzy, based on the possibilities that there will be a 'better tomorrow'. Idolising individuals and refusing to believe the facts laid out before them by other, rival sects, in a attempt to draw them to their own, equally pointless belief.

Ridiculous!

It'll never catch on.

 

[Stat Brother]

... explained by the fact that always wears sandals in the movies.

Luckily not with socks.

A German god just adds to more confusion.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

And I think trying to pass atheism off as a fashion thing is just further patronising along the lines of your first post that kicked this all off.

Patronising and ridiculous.

The notion of every week, hordes of people gathering in one place to sing songs- purporting ridiculous statements, worshiping and working themselves in to a frenzy, based on the possibilities that there will be a 'better tomorrow'. Idolising individuals and refusing to believe the facts laid out before them by other, rival sects, in a attempt to draw them to their own, equally pointless belief.

Ridiculous!

no...THIS is patronising

 

[KZNSeagull]

Luckily not with socks.

A German god just adds to more confusion.

Seems to be wearing Plimsolls here...