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[Albion] The Fan Advisory Board Thread



Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

I believe in Joe Hendry
Oct 4, 2003
12,722
On the contrary you’ve been here a week and done nothing but post about two issues, the Post Office IT thread and spamming this one with insinuation about the club.

It appears you have an agenda but not the balls to back it up with fact. Frankly it’s time to 💩 or get off the pot.

As for the “17 year old drinking” we’ll need a bit more information than ‘you’ve heard’. This isn’t Facebook, nor is it the place to post allegations about the club you can’t back up.

Nonetheless, my son is 17 and I don’t let him have beer at the Amex because it would risk the club’s alcohol licence and I’d expect a ban for both of us if he was caught. I’m not a prude, he drinks at home sometimes and was on the beer in the Dam. But I don’t want either of us losing our ticket or the club losing their licence. I expect anyone who works in the licensed selling of alcohol would understand the club’s position (if it was true).

It's legal for someone over 18 to buy 16 and 17 year olds a drink on licensed premises providing you are having a meal together. I'm not sure a pre-match pie counts as a meal though. It's legal for 5-17 year olds to drink at home or on other private premises although obviously it's not recommend to let your 5 year old down a crate of Stella, there are other laws you'll fall foul of.
 




Horses Arse

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2004
4,571
here and there
If the lyrics aren't on screen I can't sing along. So I say keep the them. Why do people keep trying to make the positive of showing the lyrics in to a negative.
I will make no comment about those unable to remember a short sequence of words.

However, if the FAB attempts to satisfy extremes of views/niche scenarios that are apparently of importance to the individual then the FAB may as well pack up.

I do now have some sympathy with the club and how to deal with supporters. You can begin to see why they just jump to conclusions without giving much thought or consideration to individual circumstances.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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It's legal for someone over 18 to buy 16 and 17 year olds a drink on licensed premises providing you are having a meal together. I'm not sure a pre-match pie counts as a meal though. It's legal for 5-17 year olds to drink at home or on other private premises although obviously it's not recommend to let your 5 year old down a crate of Stella, there are other laws you'll fall foul of.
Come on, you’re only five once.
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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May 8, 2018
11,713
It's legal for someone over 18 to buy 16 and 17 year olds a drink on licensed premises providing you are having a meal together. I'm not sure a pre-match pie counts as a meal though. It's legal for 5-17 year olds to drink at home or on other private premises although obviously it's not recommend to let your 5 year old down a crate of Stella, there are other laws you'll fall foul of.
I’d argue £5.80 meets the criteria of a meal!
 


Colonel Mustard

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Jun 18, 2023
2,240
I will make no comment about those unable to remember a short sequence of words.

However, if the FAB attempts to satisfy extremes of views/niche scenarios that are apparently of importance to the individual then the FAB may as well pack up.

I do now have some sympathy with the club and how to deal with supporters. You can begin to see why they just jump to conclusions without giving much thought or consideration to individual circumstances.
That’s exactly what I think about people who think it’s vital that we conceal the lyrics. New and occasional fans, plus oldies like me with memory problems, would like the words to be shown. Not something I’d ever consider a big issue mind, but if someone thinks it important enough to try to ban the words, I’ll speak up for the other side.
 




Horses Arse

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Jun 25, 2004
4,571
here and there
That’s exactly what I think about people who think it’s vital that we conceal the lyrics. New and occasional fans, plus oldies like me with memory problems, would like the words to be shown. Not something I’d ever consider a big issue mind, but if someone thinks it important enough to try to ban the words, I’ll speak up for the other side.
Reminds me of the packaging seen on nuts these days - "Danger - may contain traces of nuts"
 










Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
2,531
I'll happily welcome an end to lyrics being put on the screen the moment everyone to a man, woman, non-binary and everyone else religiously SIGNS the chorus as:

"Oh Sussex, Sussex by the Sea
Good old Sussex by the Sea'

and NOT:

'Good old Sussex by the Sea' TWICE.

Because I'm willing to bet it will NEVER happen. Think how long the 'And we're going up to win the cup' line was in regular use (and no doubt some people still sing that) before the majority got it right, FFS!

All the time that people can't/won't/don't use the correct lyrics, I'm firmly #TeamLyricsOnTheScreens :thumbsup:
Oh FFS!! That was the only part I 'confidently' knew the words to and the timing and didn't need the lyrics. :lolol: It's going to feel good telling the kids they've got the words wrong though! 😀 I'll be careful with that though as they'll probably just say "That's what we sing!" whilst looking at me as if I'm a mad old person (which is fair I guess).
 


Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
2,531
I completely understand it. As you say it’s a matter of opinion and I respect those of other fans. What I don’t respect is any double standards, not following protocols or decisions made based on the morals of individuals, that’s too loose in terms of interpretation. Reputation goes both ways - how we act, and the club too. Hearing about a 17 year old not being let in the ground because he was spotted having a beer (with his dad) is taking things to level of morality that I find baffling.
If you go into a pub and buy someone underage a beer, you'll both get barred if caught. The Amex is a licensed premise not just inside on the concourse but outside as well. That might be the reason for the yellow line that says 'no alcohol past this point' on route to the station as that defines the boundary of the premises (no idea, just a guess).
That line however is my new act of rebellion since Jnr stopped me using him as a bottle top mule.... can I get past the line with my beer and drink it on the walk rather than neck it. 100% success rate so far, having Jnr with me makes me look like a responsible parent! Yep I know, tiny things please tiny minds! :smile:
 




Talby

Meh.
Dec 24, 2023
486
Sussex
On the contrary you’ve been here a week and done nothing but post about two issues, the Post Office IT thread and spamming this one with insinuation about the club.

It appears you have an agenda but not the balls to back it up with fact. Frankly it’s time to 💩 or get off the pot.

As for the “17 year old drinking” we’ll need a bit more information than ‘you’ve heard’. This isn’t Facebook, nor is it the place to post allegations about the club you can’t back up.

Nonetheless, my son is 17 and I don’t let him have beer at the Amex because it would risk the club’s alcohol licence and I’d expect a ban for both of us if he was caught. I’m not a prude, he drinks at home sometimes and was on the beer in the Dam. But I don’t want either of us losing our ticket or the club losing their licence. I expect anyone who works in the licensed selling of alcohol would understand the
On the contrary you’ve been here a week and done nothing but post about two issues, the Post Office IT thread and spamming this one with insinuation about the club.

It appears you have an agenda but not the balls to back it up with fact. Frankly it’s time to 💩 or get off the pot.

As for the “17 year old drinking” we’ll need a bit more information than ‘you’ve heard’. This isn’t Facebook, nor is it the place to post allegations about the club you can’t back up.

Nonetheless, my son is 17 and I don’t let him have beer at the Amex because it would risk the club’s alcohol licence and I’d expect a ban for both of us if he was caught. I’m not a prude, he drinks at home sometimes and was on the beer in the Dam. But I don’t want either of us losing our ticket or the club losing their licence. I expect anyone who works in the licensed selling of alcohol would understand the club’s position (if it was true).
He could just buy his own.
Okay, now we know what the issue is. How long is/was the ban for?
you don’t.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland


Talby

Meh.
Dec 24, 2023
486
Sussex
For a newby, it's quite impressive how one person can totally derail something that had previously been a useful thread. :rolleyes:
Always willing to assist.

Admittedly I may have caused so upset. My candid approach might not be endearing me to some. I’m not a newbie in terms of the club, but will try to understand the etiquette on here.
To add - I've no strong feeling about the lyrics on the screen. I think it is daft, unwarranted, unneccesary but cant get too excited about it.
it’s useful to new fans of the Club and new residents to Sussex that might not know them.
 




Horses Arse

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2004
4,571
here and there
Always willing to assist.

Admittedly I may have caused so upset. My candid approach might not be endearing me to some. I’m not a newbie in terms of the club, but will try to understand the etiquette on here.

it’s useful to new fans of the Club and new residents to Sussex that might not know them.

New songs get learned quickly, should be the same for old songs.

Rite of passage to learn original club songs. If they're just tourists they'd have little interest anyway.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
New songs get learned quickly, should be the same for old songs.

Rite of passage to learn original club songs. If they're just tourists they'd have little interest anyway.
Exactly this. Sheffield United don’t put the words to “Greasy Chip Butty” up and Forest don’t for their Mull of Kyntyre pastiche. Both sound way better than GOSBTS. Forest even do theirs away.

Make an effort or give your ticket up so a young un who’ll be doing home and away with a bit of gusto can get a ticket.

Nothing worse for atmosphere than tourists and two-club-Timothys.
 


Barry Izbak

U.T.A.
Dec 7, 2005
7,501
Lancing By Sea
FAB MEETING NOTES 15/01/24

We discussed the perceived disparity on the differing Tiers for the availability of away tickets. This is with a particular focus on those destinations with a low allocation (e.g. Luton, Bournemouth)

Where ticket allocations are small (e.g. Bournemouth, Luton, or small lower league ground on 5th round of the FA Cup) the “bandwidth” on each tier should be narrower.
The Tiers in place for the Luton game meant that some of those on 350-380 points feel aggrieved that they had the same chance of a Luton ticket as someone on 250 points.

ACTION Nigel to draft an email to the club on this and ask for a response by the end of the month.

ACTION Jo is meeting Duncan from SheGulls on Sunday 21st January at Broadfield following on from his questionnaire to SheGulls members

ACTION Jo to respond to the email from Jenny regarding the actions being taken by the new WSL Team marketing person “Heather”

ACTION Jerry to follow up potential for a webinar and specifically to use the FAB Teams account as a medium. Action after January 22nd. Also to ask the club for their help to promote the webinar.

ACTION The new Albion Disabled Supporters Association (DSA) is on course to be launched in March. They have an email address to enable people to contact them, and they have been “inundated” with responses so far. Email: Seagulls.dsa@gmail.com

ACTION FAB to revisit the proposed agenda for our next club meeting on February 5th Specifically to ensure that 2024 new FAB recruitment is high on the agenda.

ACTION Jo to manage the FAB inbox for the next week

ACTION Nigel to update the FAB website with these notes

ACTION Nigel to update NSC FAB thread with these notes
 


portlock seagull

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2003
18,970
Sounds like a Grange Hill school council meeting from the 80s. Just saying!

Has smart casual been agreed upon yet? :)
 




The Tactician

Well-known member
Feb 18, 2013
1,062
Update from our meeting 29/01/24

The FAB discussed the following items

  1. Fan Webinar – Gerry Brown outlined his thoughts on hosting a fan webinar. He and Jo Davis have a meeting with the club on 31 January to discuss timings, publicity content etc. Items for discussion will be polled using X and NSC. A possible date for the webinar will be Wednesday 21 February but this is provisional at this stage.
  2. Items for discussion with the club – items for the agenda for a meeting to be held on Monday 5 February with the club were discussed. Gill Martin agreed to circulate a draft agenda to the club and FAB members. The agenda will centre on building good relationships, overcoming trust issues, recruitment and finding ways to forward the FAB’s strategic objectives.
  3. The FAB have been invited to an FA meeting to discuss Fan Engagement issues. It was decided that Clive Steed will represent the FAB at the event as the Chair, Gill Martin, is unable to attend.
  4. Gill Martin gave a quick update on the DSA launch. An article will be in the Palace programme and at least 30-40 people have shown interest in joining the DSA. The game where the DSA is formally launched is likely to be the Everton game on 24 February but again, this is provisional at this stage.
  5. Jo Davis gave an update on progress made with the Women’s Game strategic objective. She has held initial discussions with Johnny Cantor regarding hosting a Fans Forum and she has also had discussions with Duncan Price from SheGulls. She feels some positive momentum is building.
 




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