Yoda
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Very much so, what was it they estimate? x20% to x50% more than shown?
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Very much so, what was it they estimate? x20% to x50% more than shown?
LamieRobertson
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New cases drop across UK for the fifth consecutive week despite fears of new variants. Now below 15k/day . Little difference in rates between the regions now. With reducing admissions as well this suggests restrictions + vaccines working well together. Thx for logging
https://twitter.com/timspector/status/1359472312492449792?s=21
https://twitter.com/timspector/status/1359472312492449792?s=21
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
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Of course: however, we know the biggest driver of infection rates between the summer and December were the younger age groups, we also know immunity lasts for 6 months+ at least and we are also now vaccinating our older age groups at a fast rate. I’m not saying we’ve achieved herd immunity yet, but I do believe we are on our way. That’s a hell of a lot of people who are likely immune, at least to serious symptoms.
The Zoe symptom tracker which has been very reliable is at a lower rate than early September, which is very telling.
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
- 2,204
More like a factor of 5 or 10 times higher. When deaths were running at 1,000 a day, they were only testing about 10,000 from memory, and the cases must have been running at 50k or 100k per day to get that rate of deaths.
blue-shifted
Banned
Less effective treatments then of course, but yes probably cases up to 50k per day
Daily data update - everything rapidly heading in the right direction :
Infections - 13,013, rolling 7 day number down 27.7%
Admissions - 1,872, rolling 7 day number down 22.6%
Patients in hospital peaked at just over 39k (18th January), it's now 26,684
Deaths - 1,001, rolling 7 day number down 25.9% (this is accelerating fast now)
Vaccinations - 411,812 first jabs (40k more than reported last Weds). Total of first jabs has now passed 13m (12,058, 298) .
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Infections - 13,013, rolling 7 day number down 27.7%
Admissions - 1,872, rolling 7 day number down 22.6%
Patients in hospital peaked at just over 39k (18th January), it's now 26,684
Deaths - 1,001, rolling 7 day number down 25.9% (this is accelerating fast now)
Vaccinations - 411,812 first jabs (40k more than reported last Weds). Total of first jabs has now passed 13m (12,058, 298) .
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
RossyG
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- Dec 20, 2014
- 2,630
The media can use it both ways now. After running scare stories to sell papers they can now run a big splash 'Oxford vaccine is SAFE for all!!'
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
- 1,953
A friend of mine in London rang his surgery today regarding a neck problem, and during the conversation was asked if he could come in for a COVID Jab, he of course said yes, but asked why as he is only in his 40s.
He was told that a lot of BAME people were refusing the Jab as they had heard of the concerns about it not being effective or safe!
Once again the media is causing tthis pandemic to go on longer and cause illness and death simply because they want a "shock" headline
This isnt the press exercising freedom of speech, or exposing the truth, its irresponsible scaremongering and blatant misinformation used to get readers or viewers.
Time and again the scientists say wait till we have more info and time and again the press publish half truths and downright lies
They should all be held accountable for the misery, illness and deaths that they have and continue to cause
This Pandemic has shown me how awful our media is, but that’s not for this thread.
good point. Boris, the experts and even the BBC are now trying their hardest to explain the FACTS
nwgull
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When you say media, do you mean mainstream or does this include social media? The MSM haven't perpetuated any anti-vax myths that I have seen. Social media is another thing with all the ridiculous rumours about microchips etc. Although to be fair Twitter has been coming down hard on anyone who tweets fake news relating to Covid and the vaccinations.
Prof JVT was brilliant on his live Q&A today - would highly recommend anyone watch a recording of it if they are worried. As usual a hugely reassuring presence.
Look at Sky News today
Most know cases are higher on a wed and the best way to compete is week on week, is that a fair comment?
Sky’s headline Covid Cases up on yesterday!! with no week on week/7 day average.
When I stick the daily numbers up it's always the 7 day rolling number that's the key as far as I am concerned - there are too many fluctuations day by day (and the reporting isn't accurate on a 24 hour basis anyway - even in the 7 day trends the data is a bit out of date sometimes). The trend is the key.
Anyway, we've already had a few media negativity debates on here - best take that over to the main thread before we go off track again
On 5th January, the government announced a target of 13.9m first jabs by mid-February. The programme’s on course to exceed that by 1.8m.
An amazing effort at all levels.
An amazing effort at all levels.
He did another one of those on C4 news about ten days back. Highly impressive, very clear on all issues thrown at him, emphatically dismissive when dealing with misinformation eg the danger of vaccines to future fertility.
nwgull
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Eh? I’m asking if the MSM has anything to do with promoting anti-vaccine bollox, particularly amongst BAME groups.