The AXE man...

[Buzzer]

However Religion does not create disturbed people.

In your opinion, not mine. And my opinion that the religion is seriously messed up is not bigotry.

 

[cjd]

To stop these sick individuals we must do more to stop the ones who are influencing them, by urging them to do these acts of violence in the false name of religion.

"We"...?

This is a football forum not a f*****g mosque !

 

[Ryde]

A hand-painted flag of so-called Islamic State has been found in the room of an Afghan refugee accused of carrying out an axe and knife attack on a southern German train, officials say.
The 17-year-old man injured four people from Hong Kong, three seriously, in the attack in Wurzburg on Monday evening. He was shot dead by police as he fled.
He had reportedly shouted Allahu akbar" ("God is great").
The attack comes days after a deadly IS-claimed attack in Nice in France.
Joachim Herrmann, the interior minister of the state of Bavaria, told German TV the flag had been found among the teenager's belongings in his room in the nearby town of Ochsenfurt.
The teenager, who had claimed asylum after travelling to Germany as an unaccompanied minor, had been living with a foster family after moving from a refugee centre in the town.
Last year Germany registered more than one million migrants, including more than 150,000 Afghans, although the number has slowed dramatically this year since new EU measures were taken to stop the flow.
The South China Morning Post said it was believed the four people injured were a 62-year-old man, his 58-year-old wife, their daughter, 27, and her boyfriend, 31. The 17-year-old son travelling with them was not hurt, it said.
A source told the paper the father and boyfriend had tried to protect the other members of the group.
The attack happened at about 21:15 (19:15 GMT) on the train which runs between Treuchlingen and Wurzburg.
Police said the attacker had fled the train but was chased by officers who shot him dead.
One local man told DPA news agency that the train carriage where the attack took place "looked like a slaughterhouse".

 

[wellquickwoody]

And still the apologists rush to gather.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

"We"...?

This is a football forum not a f*****g mosque !

Oh dear.

 

[carlzeiss]

The Independent concerned about the effect on refugees .

Axe attack on German train a 'tragedy' for refugee crisis

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ager-tragedy-for-refugee-crisis-a7144041.html

 

[Hillian1]

And still the apologists rush to gather.

This.

 

[Buzzer]

The Independent concerned about the effect on refugees .

Axe attack on German train a 'tragedy' for refugee crisis

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ager-tragedy-for-refugee-crisis-a7144041.html

The tragedy for the refugee crisis was encouraging the free-for-all approach that has led to huge unfettered migration across Europe. We (in Europe) should have insisted that we would take refugees but only via the refugee camps that way the human traffickers would not have profited, it could have been properly overseen, there would not have been deaths in the Med and it would have been families and not single young men that got priority.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

In your opinion, not mine. And my opinion that the religion is seriously messed up is not bigotry.

And would you call years of abuse towards innocent children carried out by those that preach love and peace from the pulpit in the Catholic and Church Of England religions and then covered up by the leader of the religion to save it from embarrassment messed up, I would. Not to mention that they also see women as second class citizens who until recently were deemed not suitable for a top job.
Not defending Islam at all but some serious misgivings have and still are being carried out in the name of religion of all faiths around the world.
I would not really separate terrorism from seriously harming children for life.

 

[Hastings gull]

The tragedy for the refugee crisis was encouraging the free-for-all approach that has led to huge unfettered migration across Europe. We (in Europe) should have insisted that we would take refugees but only via the refugee camps that way the human traffickers would not have profited, it could have been properly overseen, there would not have been deaths in the Med and it would have been families and not single young men that got priority.

Will you stop posting common sense on here!

 

[Springal]

It's getting worrying now. Neither the French or Germans seem to be able to cope with these incidents and seem to have no intelligence as to what is going on.

How we can be sure we are on top of it?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Reckon this will be the end for Merkel now. Must have been absolutely terrifying for the people on that carriage. This shit has got to stop, one way they can do this is take the common sense approach and stop so many people entering the EU zone in the first place and stop all these cultural and religious problems being dragged over.

 

[Return of the Rev]

It's getting worrying now. Neither the French or Germans seem to be able to cope with these incidents and seem to have no intelligence as to what is going on.

How we can be sure we are on top of it?

You can never be on top it tbh,any lone wolf can turn up and cause terror.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/332743.stm

 

[Springal]

You can never be on top it tbh,any lone wolf can turn up and cause terror.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/332743.stm

Sure, but we are talking weekly occurrences now...

 

[Buzzer]

And would you call years of abuse towards innocent children carried out by those that preach love and peace from the pulpit in the Catholic and Church Of England religions and then covered up by the leader of the religion to save it from embarrassment messed up, I would.

Of course it is messed up, it's despicable but the difference is that there aren't explicit texts in the Bible encouraging people to do that and there are not priests in pulpits telling people to do that and there are not Catholic terrorist organisations that have taken over notionally Christian countries and now forcing those views on millions of people backed by millions of others around the world who hold similar views. There is no equivalence between the historic abuses of children in the Christian churches and what is being done in the name of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Daesh, Boko Harem.

You can quite clearly see that the former is the act of individuals despite the teachings of their faith, the latter is hundreds of thousands of people comitting atrocities because of their faith. Islam desperately needs a Renaissance.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

It's getting worrying now. Neither the French or Germans seem to be able to cope with these incidents and seem to have no intelligence as to what is going on.

How we can be sure we are on top of it?

They will never be on top of it, all the time these crimes hide behind religion and exploit democracy.

 

[Not nick rhodes]

Of course it is messed up, it's despicable but the difference is that there aren't explicit texts in the Bible encouraging people to do that and there are not priests in pulpits telling people to do that and there are not Catholic terrorist organisations that have taken over notionally Christian countries and now forcing those views on millions of people backed by millions of others around the world who hold similar views. There is no moral equivalence between the historic abuses of children in the Christian churches and what is being done in the name of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Daesh, Boko Harem.

You can quite clearly see that the former is the act of individuals despite the teachings of their faith, the latter is hundreds of thousands of people comitting atrocities because of their faith.

And there lies the problem. Some of them not all but a large enough number to cause havoc all over Europe. How can you reason with a culture that views women as 2nd class citizens, gay people as deserving of death and even the killing of their own children in some cases if they bring so called shame on their family by marrying the 'wrong ' person. Even wild animals don't behave like that. The extremist Muslim issue is the biggest threat to our society since the Nazis and I don't say that lightly.

Some Muslims not all and it is the minority.But even a few percent equals hundreds of thousands potentially millions across the globe.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Sure, but we are talking weekly occurrences now...

We are still safer today than through the '80s and '90s

Clearly spiking at present, and a clear cause for concern, as RotR says, you can't be on top of it as the graphs show, if someone wishes to, they seemingly can.

 

[Wellesley]

We must never jump to conclusions when we hear of a terror attack that the perpetrators are Muslims. It matters not how many innocent people are slaughtered in these never ending attacks, we mustn't make presumptions or judge Islam because this could offend. Go out and hug a Muslim today, you'll feel so much better for it.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

We must never jump to conclusions when we hear of a terror attack that the perpetrators are Muslims. It matters not how many innocent people are slaughtered in these never ending attacks, we mustn't make presumptions or judge Islam because this could offend. Go out and hug a Muslim today, you'll feel so much better for it.

Nah I think I will give that a swerve if it's all the same thanks.