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The Ashes: Second Test, Adelaide - The 100% OFFICIAL thread [Merged]





















Parson Henry

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Jan 6, 2004
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Uncle Buck said:
We would not want you to degrade yourself by having to travel with us.

it would be an upgrade even an honour to even be asked. Trouble is I have no hamper and am not knowledgable about holding flags outside Pubs.
 
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Uncle Buck said:
Anderson has some talent, but part of the issue is the fact that until the 2005 season he had played hardly any cricket as he got into the England side at much the same time as he broke through at Lancashire and then England kept calling him up, not playing him and not releasing him for Lancashire.

Also he is another one coming back from injury.

He is a good county player but not international class
 




Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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Haywards Heath
Stumpy Tim said:
More importantly, look out for me & my mates on a stag-do. 40 of us dressing up as Batman & Robin on the Saturday - and the stag going as the Riddler. And I'm taking my "Seagulls" England flag. Get in!
Watch out, dwayne or simster might start a thread about you. Apparently anyone enjoying themselves at sport is a wanker.
 


Statto

007
Nov 11, 2005
4,317
Graceland Memphis
IMHO its a no-brainer. Anderson has got to give way. Has he ever performed well for England? Giles(spl) is Only really there for his batting ability. He will be the one to give way when Jones comes back. Im confident Harmy will find his form and, when on form, our three fast bowlers are the best in the world.
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
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Man of Harveys said:
KP has, I read somewhere, one of the most obnoxiously foul and arrogant personalities in sport, a position for which the competition could, very charitably, be described as fairly stiff.

In the words of Spitting Image...Have you ever met a nice South African?
 




Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
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Geelong, Australia
This mornings paper says the Adeliade pitch isn't the spinners haven it used to be.

Thus Australians selectors who were due to name the test sqaud were still deciding wether too play 2 spinners or go in with the same bowling line up as Brisbane.

Personally i'd take MacGill in because hes a very underated spin bowler which is understandable when you are always second fiddle to Warne.
 




Pavilionaire said:
I personally think that Giles and Anderson should be dropped for Panesar and Mahmood.

Agree - couldn't believe how shocking Anderson was. I think Giles did a fine job as a supporting bowler to the in-form 2005 Ashes bowlers but England don't have that luxury now and need a front-line bowler like Panesar in his place.
 


gwpdylan

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Jul 26, 2006
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Dropping Harmison is not an option for me. He needs bowling and some confidence if he is to get his form back and dropping him isn't going to help either of those. Anderson out for Panesar.
think that has to be the way
 




gwpdylan

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Jul 26, 2006
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you'll have guessed by my thead a week back how i felt re monty and giles, i accept that aussies will go after monty but a really do believe it may be at there peril. the guy bowl wicket taking balls, tirns it and despite frailties in the field has a good head on him bowling wise. he has a good flighted delivery that could get them in trouble and to be fuckin honect mush as i respect giles s a batter its hard to see that his runs were of much use compapared to if panesar had had got a few wickets
 


CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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Tyrone Biggums said:


Personally i'd take MacGill in because hes a very underated spin bowler which is understandable when you are always second fiddle to Warne.

Are his averages still better than Warne's, at test level?


Warne
Code:
class  mat  balls  runs  wkts  bbi  bbm  ave  econ  sr  4  5  10 
Tests   141   39515   17446   689   8/71   12/128   25.32   2.64   57.35   46   36   10

MacGill
Code:
class  mat  balls  runs  wkts  bbi  bbm  ave  econ  sr  4  5  10 
Tests   40   10211   5387   198   8/108   12/107   27.20   3.16   51.57   9   12   2

Better strike rate.....


Anyhoo, here's what cric info says about the spinner situation.

Australia have thrown out the possibility of using two spinners and asked for fast-bowling reinforcements as they search for a 2-0 Ashes lead in Adelaide from Friday. The national selectors met over two days to consider their options following Shane Watson's second consecutive withdrawal with a hamstring injury and Shaun Tait joined Mitchell Johnson in the 13-man squad.

Tait was part of the outfit before leaving Brisbane ahead of the first Test, which Australia won by 277 runs at the Gabba, and Johnson was released for Pura Cup duty when a seam attack of Brett Lee, Glenn McGrath and Stuart Clark was preferred. McGrath and Clark excelled with seven wickets each, but the expanded squad indicates the selectors are concerned with McGrath's bruised heel.

McGrath had a pain-killing injection in his left foot on Sunday and returned 1 for 53 to follow his 6 for 50 that rocked England's first innings. Lee was the most disappointing of the trio, but he is unlikely to be overlooked after one below-par performance and the option of a five-man frontline attack disappeared with Watson's slow recovery.

Shane Warne is currently irreplaceable, especially on a surface in which he has 25 wickets from his past four Tests, and only an injury or doubts over fitness can realistically provide an opening for Tait or Johnson. Stuart MacGill tipped yesterday that he would miss the squad and his hunch was correct.

"The possibility of using two specialist spinners continues to be discussed," Andrew Hilditch, the chairman of selectors, said. "That decision is made more difficult while Watson is unfit, but it will be reviewed depending on the particular conditions we will face at each venue." There is a chance Watson and MacGill could be required in Perth for the third game following the WACA's transformation from a fast-bowling haven to a batsman-dominated arena.

Michael Clarke retained his spot at No. 6 following his 56 in the first innings at Brisbane and his left-arm spin will be a handy asset during the second Test. "I've been ultra-impressed with the way Clarke's gone about his cricket over the last 12 to 18 months," Ricky Ponting said after the victory. "He's extremely hungry and he's trained hard and he's worked on his technique for the longer form of the game. It's great to see him play well."

Australia squad Justin Langer, Matthew Hayden, Ricky Ponting (capt), Damien Martyn, Michael Hussey, Michael Clarke, Adam Gilchrist (wk), Shane Warne, Brett Lee, Stuart Clark, Glenn McGrath, Mitchell Johnson, Shaun Tait.
 


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