The Amex Stadium will be "cashless" according to the Argus!

[Manny]

Works well elsewhere and on the continent, think some fans need to get into the 21st century and be a bit willing for change. Stop moaning you miserable bastards

Who is moaning? dont see any moaning in this thread. Just people asking questions about how it would work.

 

[Hiney]

Works well elsewhere and on the continent, think some fans need to get into the 21st century and be a bit willing for change. Stop moaning you miserable bastards

This.

Brilliant idea and will work a treat.

 

[desprateseagull]

Cash has worked well for CENTURIES.

 

[supergeorge]

Let's get a sense of realism here. The Albion are constructing arguably the finest (not biggest) stadium in the country, if not Europe, and with that comes the very latest technology which we would all expect wouldn't we? You don't buy a new car and then insist on having an engine that is from a model 3/4 years old do you? People don't like change and feel that change is to be feared, it's not honestly. People find arguments against it all the time. I've seen comments on here that say, what if I lose my card, what if I run out of money etc. to these people I ask, what happens now if you lose your ticket for the game, what happens if you lose your wallet, and one more question, how often does this happen, really? Are you trying to find things wrong with the system without really thinking about it because it's different. These smart card systems do actually work, ask anyone that uses an Oyster card, they do everything that the club are saying, they reduce the queues, easy to top up and above all, secure. The club aren't trying to transport millions of people across London they are just getting 22500 people in the stadium and something to eat/drink at half time. We are not the first to use this system and before long everyone will be using it, there hasn't been a national outcry to ban smart card systems at football stadia yet and I doubt there ever will be, why? because they actually work. I for one don't like queuing, there is always that person in front of me that is sorting through the lose change to pay for the food, then the wait after you have given the money and you wait for the change, it all adds up to waiting time, this element of the wait will be gone, a simple swipe of the card and your done, and off to enjoy the food on offer. The thought that has gone into this project is immense, Brighton will be at the forefront of the 'football experience' in this country let's embrace it, be a part of it and be proud of it.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The reason for my scepticism was (and remains) the potential cost in fans. And the thing is, we're all guessing on that one, no one can say 100 per cent that it wouldn't affect gates, or even that it would, because you're talking about a figure that would be absent, not present. It's down to best-guess and some knowledge of fans' behaviour.

Anyone who seriously avoids going to the football when they want because the club are using smartcards should probably be put to sleep for the sake of mankind.

 

[Turkey]

I had to do this when I went to Hannover vs Bayern Munich last season.

It actually worked really well. There were machines inside the stadium that you could use to top up with although there were no queues for these as all the regular home fans had theirs already.

Then went over to get a couple of beers and burgers and got served pretty quickly.

It's gonna be great

 

[Manny]

I personally do think this is all very good for regular home fans and i do fully embrace the idea. But i do think the old cash alternative should still be in place alongside, particularly for away fans or once in a blue moon visitors.
The reason for this is..... Joe Bloggs the away fan recieves his smart card, comes to the falmer, stands in que #1 to top his card up, then stands in que #2 to get his drink/chips/whatever, then at the end has to stand in que #3 to get any unused credit back. I dont see how this reduces queing?

 

[Manny]

ah sorry, thought i saw mention of machines to top up cards at the ground. Didnt realise it can be done from home, my bad.

All good then.

 

[Rambo]

Let's get a sense of realism here. The Albion are constructing arguably the finest (not biggest) stadium in the country, if not Europe, and with that comes the very latest technology which we would all expect wouldn't we? You don't buy a new car and then insist on having an engine that is from a model 3/4 years old do you? People don't like change and feel that change is to be feared, it's not honestly. People find arguments against it all the time. I've seen comments on here that say, what if I lose my card, what if I run out of money etc. to these people I ask, what happens now if you lose your ticket for the game, what happens if you lose your wallet, and one more question, how often does this happen, really? Are you trying to find things wrong with the system without really thinking about it because it's different. These smart card systems do actually work, ask anyone that uses an Oyster card, they do everything that the club are saying, they reduce the queues, easy to top up and above all, secure. The club aren't trying to transport millions of people across London they are just getting 22500 people in the stadium and something to eat/drink at half time. We are not the first to use this system and before long everyone will be using it, there hasn't been a national outcry to ban smart card systems at football stadia yet and I doubt there ever will be, why? because they actually work. I for one don't like queuing, there is always that person in front of me that is sorting through the lose change to pay for the food, then the wait after you have given the money and you wait for the change, it all adds up to waiting time, this element of the wait will be gone, a simple swipe of the card and your done, and off to enjoy the food on offer. The thought that has gone into this project is immense, Brighton will be at the forefront of the 'football experience' in this country let's embrace it, be a part of it and be proud of it.

Well said, could have been formatted a bit better though!

 

[hans kraay fan club]

All the CHILDREN at my son's SCHOOL seem to manage quite easily, with paying for their snacks in the canteen with a 'smart' card.

It really can't be that difficult.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I've heard of this scheme being used in Germany. I think there may be machines in the stadium where you can charge up your card, but it means you don't use cash in the queues for the burgers, you just have a queue at the machine...

They have this system at Bayer. I went there last season in the Hertha away end. We bought a card, used it, took it back and got our deposit back as well as the balance. Easy.

 

[Bozza]

A big group of us went to the pre-season Amsterdam tournament at the Ajax Arena 9 years ago and the only way to buy food and drink was with a smart card. Even as one-off visitors the whole thing was completely painless.

(Or I was so drunk I don't remember the pain.)

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Don't see this as anything other than a good thing.

Surprised it's only just being mentioned on here though as it was talked about at the Fans Forum last week.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Let's get a sense of realism here. The Albion are constructing arguably the finest (not biggest) stadium in the country, if not Europe, and with that comes the very latest technology which we would all expect wouldn't we? You don't buy a new car and then insist on having an engine that is from a model 3/4 years old do you? People don't like change and feel that change is to be feared, it's not honestly. People find arguments against it all the time. I've seen comments on here that say, what if I lose my card, what if I run out of money etc. to these people I ask, what happens now if you lose your ticket for the game, what happens if you lose your wallet, and one more question, how often does this happen, really? Are you trying to find things wrong with the system without really thinking about it because it's different. These smart card systems do actually work, ask anyone that uses an Oyster card, they do everything that the club are saying, they reduce the queues, easy to top up and above all, secure. The club aren't trying to transport millions of people across London they are just getting 22500 people in the stadium and something to eat/drink at half time. We are not the first to use this system and before long everyone will be using it, there hasn't been a national outcry to ban smart card systems at football stadia yet and I doubt there ever will be, why? because they actually work. I for one don't like queuing, there is always that person in front of me that is sorting through the lose change to pay for the food, then the wait after you have given the money and you wait for the change, it all adds up to waiting time, this element of the wait will be gone, a simple swipe of the card and your done, and off to enjoy the food on offer. The thought that has gone into this project is immense, Brighton will be at the forefront of the 'football experience' in this country let's embrace it, be a part of it and be proud of it.

I presume you will still be able to purchase real ale with arrow heads and bronze disks?

 

[portlock seagull]

Let's get a sense of realism here. The Albion are constructing arguably the finest (not biggest) stadium in the country, if not Europe, and with that comes the very latest technology which we would all expect wouldn't we? You don't buy a new car and then insist on having an engine that is from a model 3/4 years old do you? People don't like change and feel that change is to be feared, it's not honestly. People find arguments against it all the time. I've seen comments on here that say, what if I lose my card, what if I run out of money etc. to these people I ask, what happens now if you lose your ticket for the game, what happens if you lose your wallet, and one more question, how often does this happen, really? Are you trying to find things wrong with the system without really thinking about it because it's different. These smart card systems do actually work, ask anyone that uses an Oyster card, they do everything that the club are saying, they reduce the queues, easy to top up and above all, secure. The club aren't trying to transport millions of people across London they are just getting 22500 people in the stadium and something to eat/drink at half time. We are not the first to use this system and before long everyone will be using it, there hasn't been a national outcry to ban smart card systems at football stadia yet and I doubt there ever will be, why? because they actually work. I for one don't like queuing, there is always that person in front of me that is sorting through the lose change to pay for the food, then the wait after you have given the money and you wait for the change, it all adds up to waiting time, this element of the wait will be gone, a simple swipe of the card and your done, and off to enjoy the food on offer. The thought that has gone into this project is immense, Brighton will be at the forefront of the 'football experience' in this country let's embrace it, be a part of it and be proud of it.

So if the club aren't trying to transport millions of people across London they are just getting 22500 people in the stadium.....why do we need smart technology akin to Oyster?

And the queues at football aren't really caused by people paying; it's the wait for 20mins because there aren't enough staff or outlets would you like onions with that, wait for lager to pour etc etc. The AMEX will improve most of those a 100fold. Though don't hold your breath the onions will improve

Fact is if you want to take money off people, you should make it as easy for them to pay as possible e.g. think the old age penshioner once a season scenario. But this is pointless thread. The club will do what the club will do and if you don't embrace it, you won't be part of it. So everyone needs to get on board.

 

[supaseagull]

I think that anything that uses modern technology is a good thing and certainly as a non-season ticket holder with children, I think this is a wonderful idea.

There are always obstacles when implementing a project such as this but they're usually overcome and people will have questions.

The one thing I'm wondering is something that many others who are involved in a youth organisation will want to know and that's what happens when you bring a group of 8-13 year olds along to a game? Surely it'd be a bit unreasonable to expect these kids to have smart cards for a one off visit when most will just be given a fiver to grab a drink and a programme by their parents...

Anyone know what'll happen with these potential fans who may just be attending their first game?

 

[Springal]

I think that anything that uses modern technology is a good thing and certainly as a non-season ticket holder with children, I think this is a wonderful idea.

There are always obstacles when implementing a project such as this but they're usually overcome and people will have questions.

The one thing I'm wondering is something that many others who are involved in a youth organisation will want to know and that's what happens when you bring a group of 8-13 year olds along to a game? Surely it'd be a bit unreasonable to expect these kids to have smart cards for a one off visit when most will just be given a fiver to grab a drink and a programme by their parents...

Anyone know what'll happen with these potential fans who may just be attending their first game?

If I can manage it PISSED on european lager in Germany and Holland, I'm sure a pre-arranged trip can be sorted? It really is not difficult....

 

[Biscuit]

People need to calm down a bit. It's a great idea and works really well. All this 'Bloody hell, smart cards!!' hysteria is hilarious. Come on people, it's 2010, not 1810.

 

[beorhthelm]

No. Joe Bloggs receives his smart card and puts say £5 or £10 on it BEFORE even leaving for the game. He can then buy stuff in que #2 and get food drinks blah blah.
When he gets home he can the either keep the money on it or get it back.

No need to que #1 or #3 unless Joe Bloggs is an idiot.

how or where? because if you are assuming everyone has t'internet, whats that make you?

im all for it, but i dont see a wholly cashless stadium especially for away fans.

 

[Rookie]

how or where? because if you are assuming everyone has t'internet, whats that make you?

im all for it, but i dont see a wholly cashless stadium especially for away fans.

In the same way as Oyster cards work. You can put cash on via the internet or via numerous machines in the stations. It really isn't difficult don't get why some are having a paddy. Season tickets will get used to it quickly enough, people who buy 1 ticket at a time will I'm sure have the chance at purchase to put cash on the card, same for away fans. For those saying 'old people' won't be able to do are I think being a bit disrespectful, the internet and technology isn't just for the under 30s