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That penalty - What the Football League say



Billy Mays

New member
Aug 14, 2008
519
Fruit Cove
The f in "Yours Faithfully" should have been lower case. Sloppy of Amanda at the Football League not to have pointed this out. In my opinion like.
 




clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
Bloody Nora, was it really worth writing to them about it? There's no proper video evidence and it's a completely subjective issue. It really is time to forget about it.

Andy Naylor writes in the Argus this morning that he has seen the clubs own exclusive video of the match and that the referee had his back to the free kick as he blew the first whistle, Naylor claims that the referee saw the incident and immediately blew a second time before the free kick was taken. Naylor also notes that the referee does not have a match this weekend and suggests that a secret suspension may have taken place.
 


withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,792
Somersetshire
Did anyone expect anything other than a poor excuse?

Watch the video,and it is crystal clear what actually happened,but the league is bound to defend its refs no matter how poor they are.

Whatever,it's still 2-2.
 


Everest

Me
Jul 5, 2003
20,741
Southwick
Andy Naylor writes in the Argus this morning that he has seen the clubs own exclusive video of the match and that the referee had his back to the free kick as he blew the first whistle, Naylor claims that the referee saw the incident and immediately blew a second time before the free kick was taken. Naylor also notes that the referee does not have a match this weekend and suggests that a secret suspension may have taken place.

If the audio/video footage on TFLS is all synced up properly, then AN is talking out of his arse. The ref blew the second time as the ball was entering the penalty area.
Agree with the ref having his back to the FK though.

It's gone now. Time to move on and up.
 


Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,935
Buxted Harbour
You lot need to get out more!!

Isn't the first and certainly won't be the last controversial decision given against us. Are you going to write and complain about everyone?
 




keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
10,214
Amanda.

How does a referee look at the point when the ball is struck and clearly see what occurred in a completely separate offence miles away from the ball?

How does a linesman look at the ball being played and the defensive line simultaneously?

It's a hard job being an official, making a big deal out of something like this is a bit desperate.

I'd prefer a letter like this.


Dear Mr Greer


What's the best outcome you thought would result in you hitting someone in the penalty are?
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
7,670
Just far enough away from LDC
You lot need to get out more!!

Isn't the first and certainly won't be the last controversial decision given against us. Are you going to write and complain about everyone?

I see your point but I dont think the letter in this instance was a complaint.

I do agree with Everest however that I think Andy Naylor has got this wrong based on my assessment of The FLS footage that I saw.
 


Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,935
Buxted Harbour
I see your point but I dont think the letter in this instance was a complaint.

Well what was it then?

His decision is clearly contrary to the laws of the game

Did he?? I wasn't at the game so can only go on the TV footage and what others on here have said. It would seem there is no conclusive proof that he did get it wrong.

The referee has clearly brought the integrity of the game into some degree of disrepute

See above.

IMO if you want to write and complain about something, write to the club and ask them what they are going to do about our awful disciplinary record.

But then it's far too easy to blame someone else isn't it!!
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
31,041
Hove
Dear Football League,

Following the sending off of our player, and subsequent awarding of a penalty (despite the ball not being in play - allegedly), we went on to gain a well deserved 2-1 lead. Could you please explain then, why our keeper, a full time professional, elected to punch a ball approx. at neck height, with only his own centre half within 8 yards, in the 93rd min rather than catch it?

Your prompt attention would be appreciated. :thumbsup:
 


Marshy

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
20,073
FRUIT OF THE BLOOM
Looking at the replay of the goal the ref didnt have a clue when the kick was taken, he was looking in the other direction at the incident.
It was pure guess work by the ref.
 


mikeyjh

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2008
4,671
Llanymawddwy
Looking at the replay of the goal the ref didnt have a clue when the kick was taken, he was looking in the other direction at the incident.
It was pure guess work by the ref.

You don't think the loud thud a few yards behind him and subsequent ball whistling over his head might have given him an inkling?
 






Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,541
On NSC for over two decades...
Well, the ref only blew after he noticed the linesman flagging (which he did before the ball was kicked), the linesman did not then put the flag across his chest to indicate a penalty. So did the ref consult the linesman, who knows?
 


Lurker

62 years and counting ...
Mar 8, 2010
424
West Midlands
How does a linesman look at the ball being played and the defensive line simultaneously?

It's a hard job being an official, making a big deal out of something like this is a bit desperate.

I'd prefer a letter like this.


Dear Mr Greer


What's the best outcome you thought would result in you hitting someone in the penalty are?

... is the right question.

Why is there so little questioning of Greer's lack of brain cells?

His action was the instigator of everything that subsequently happened, including arguably the ultimate loss of 2 points, yet we choose to blame the officials?

I think some of you are looking for the wrong scapegoat. ???
 




Gritt23

New member
Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
Makes a change to get quite a decent response from the FL though.

Does it? We all whinge and moan about this that and teh other, but I'm not sure many of us take the time and trouble to write and see if we get a decent response or not.

I've often found that when you do hear the officials sum up an incident and why a decision was made in the way it was, it all suddenly seems far more reasonable, and takes the heat out of the situation. I really wish TV companies tried adding an ex-ref to their panel to put the likes of Claridge, Redknapp and Gray straight when they are talking absolute tosh.
 


Everest

Me
Jul 5, 2003
20,741
Southwick
I really wish TV companies tried adding an ex-ref to their panel to put the likes of Claridge, Redknapp and Gray straight when they are talking absolute tosh.

Or better still, get some pundits in that know the fecking laws.
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
32,269
Uffern
I really wish TV companies tried adding an ex-ref to their panel to put the likes of Claridge, Redknapp and Gray straight when they are talking absolute tosh.


Televised rugby sometimes has an ex-ref on the panel, that does add another perspective.
 




Gritt23

New member
Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
Or better still, get some pundits in that know the fecking laws.

Unfortunately, that seems completely impossible. they are chosen because of their looks, voice, and standing in the game. Nothing to do with whether they know the rules.
 


drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
24,496
Burgess Hill
... is the right question.

Why is there so little questioning of Greer's lack of brain cells?

His action was the instigator of everything that subsequently happened, including arguably the ultimate loss of 2 points, yet we choose to blame the officials?

I think some of you are looking for the wrong scapegoat. ???

Not one person, as far as I can see, has needed to question Greer's actions because we all know he acted like a pratt. Doesn't change the fact that, if the ball wasn't in play then it shouldn't have been a penalty. No different if a foul is clearly outside the penalty area and the ref gives a penalty even when he has a clear view of the incident.

Fact is the ref is clearly looking at the incident and starting to run towards it before the ball is kicked.
 


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