Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
He got 22 goals but Barnes got 20 so they were both instrumental in getting us promoted along with Bennett. His first season in the Championship didn't exactly go well with only 6 goals. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision.
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Steve Cook
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He got 22 goals but Barnes got 20 so they were both instrumental in getting us promoted along with Bennett. His first season in the Championship didn't exactly go well with only 6 goals. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision.
symyjym
Banned
Moving to another club takes time to settle. Yep we can talk about hindsight, but £9k a week wasn't going to break the bank and wasn't a massive gamble. We would have been better off keeping him and having some continuity in the first season of the Championship.
All I am saying is that hindsight or not, it wasn't a good decision by Gus at the time.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
We let a player go who had scored 22 goals and brought in one who had scored 33. Who was to know which one would succeed at Championship level?
symyjym
Banned
We should have had both, not one or the other. They would have probably worked well together.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Don't forget we were tracking Ulloa at that point. It was only his Spanish passport problems that delayed him coming to us for 18 months.
symyjym
Banned
Now that would be silly
symyjym
Banned
Pretty sure we only made him a target in the summer break 2012. May have been keeping an eye on him for 18 months but not trying to sort his passport out for that long, he's not from Wales.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The club said we had been targetting him for 18 months last January. As he wasn't an Argentinian international, he had to play for 4 years in Spain to qualify for an EU passport. It was nothing to do with international clearance.
Icy Gull
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CMS had already had an average season in the Championship so he was a bit of a gamble at 2.5 million. I said it then (check if you like) and I still say it, letting Murray go was a complete F*** up by Gus, who had made it quite clear in comments in the League One campaign that he wasn't a big fan of Murray. Could well have been the difference between us being a Championship club or a Premier League one, so quite a big balls up really.
Not hindsight, I was absolutely gutted we let GM go.
symyjym
Banned
Well that would have meant the club knew they had to wait 18 months before Murray was replaced, even more reason to have kept Murray.
We started the Championship season with Barnes, CMS and an injured Hoskins, that's three strikers minus 1, when most teams had 4 or 5.
To me that is not a logical striker number, so whether Murray turned good or not we would have been better off with him at that time.
fosters headband
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How do you know all this, I have never seen anywhere published that Bloom wanted top pay him £9K or that Palace offered him £11.5k. Are you a friend of TB's or just guessing the figures and discussions between Bloom and Gus?
symyjym
Banned
I knew someone and that was the summary I got from them halfway through our first Championship season.
There was no bullshit detected on my bullshit radar so I am happy to believe this is close to the truth.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I was told at the Notts County game that Murray was offered double his wage by us, but he wanted quadruple. I have no reason to doubt my sauce. I wasn't given exact figures.
symyjym
Banned
Well that doesn't sound right, because he lives in Brighton, he wanted to play for us, so I very much doubt he would have wanted more than Palace offered, quadruple would have meant he wanted £18k but went to Palace for £11.5k. So that story doesn't add up.
I have no reason to doubt my source either.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
League 1 average was 3.5K, double that to 7K and he went to Palace for 11.5K. It does add up. As I said, I wasn't given exact figures. Palace was an easy choice for him as he could commute easily and get a lot more money including a signing on fee which he needed at the time to pay off his ex wife.
symyjym
Banned
So if we say he was on your £3.5k as opposed to my £4.5k, quadruple would be £14k. Now unless he wanted to leave Brighton, miss the Amex and travel to smellhurst for less than than he wanted off us, it doesn't make sense.
I am more likely to believe we had to equal their offer to keep him, than wanting £3.5k extra to stay. So that's where this quadruple figure theory falls over and makes the story doubtful in my view.
I heard the he was on £4.5k but I cannot prove that.
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Blues Rock DJ
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so what about Steve Cook ?
portslade seagull
Well-known member
Blimey and there was me thinking that this was about Steve Cook ... In my opinion we should have kept him
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
Well-known member
Bitterness and Bile? Like a bit of dramatic over the top posting do you! Anyway I think Dunk might disagree with you there, and also Chris Wood had so much respect for Poyet, he was probably just having a gentle joke with him when he run up to him after he scored a double for Millwall at the Amex last season. And as for Ashley, well we all know he's Poyets Love child. Barnes could even have got sent off twice in quick succession and even lash out a referee and come straight back in after a 8 game ban under Poyet
Oh wait, I was trying to be sarcastic. OoopsBitterness and bile? No, just think Poyet is an overrated first class **** who was sacked over a year too late.
But anyway, who cares. We now have a manager who puts the club and his players before his own ego and self interests. Nice
