Should single faith schools be privately funded?

[Bold Seagull]

Is is a fact? Or a perception?

Free school meals are a statement of relative wealth, rather than academic achievement, although I do acknowledge that the former is often linked with the (lack of) the latter.

Basing an educational establishment purely on results has little value, except maybe to parents who only wish for their children to attain high-achieving results.

It is available from the government office for Social and General Statistics. It is interesting reading.

 

[The Large One]

It is available from the government office for Social and General Statistics. It is interesting reading.

Fair enough, but my other points still stand.

 

[fat old seagull]

What's the point lets face it if there really was some kind of worthwhile God wouldn't he/it have intervened by now after decades of people killing each other in his/it's name.

Further evidence to support my case is that such a Deity would also have razed Selhurst Park and all within long before now.

I rest my case..... But to be on the safe side Lord, I'm only joking.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Its not though, its because they can pick and choose which children they take. Brighter children=better results

That is simply untrue.

Mine went to a local Catholic primary. Being that a large percentage of the local Catholic population has English as a second language (mostly Polish, but also Philipino and others) and a few more are of an Irish traveller background, I'm struggling to accept your assertion (in this particular case).

 

[Mellotron]

Especially as god does not exist.

In your opinion

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

are people saying that primary schools pick and choose their kids? as in...they decide which 4/5 year olds are the brightest and choose them?

people think that that happens do they?

 

[Bold Seagull]

That is simply untrue.

Mine went to a local Catholic primary. Being that a large percentage of the local Catholic population has English as a second language (mostly Polish, but also Philipino and others) and a few more are of an Irish traveller background, I'm struggling to accept your assertion (in this particular case).

It is true but only to a point.

A faith school when oversubscribed can have it's own selection process based on church attendance for example.

A normal state school's pupils will be selected under the local authority process, in Brighton's case 1st choice, 2nd choice, 3rd choice, sibling links etc.

If a faith schools numbers are filled, then it can effectively have a say over who gets in. Child A may get in even if it's only their 3rd choice school over Child B who had it as first choice, simply because Child A's parents take them to church more often.

Where a faith school isn't oversubscribed, their own selection criteria doesn't come into it, they will have an intake just like any other state school.

The admissions issue is only really relevant to an oversubscribed faith school.

 

[Mellotron]

are people saying that primary schools pick and choose their kids? as in...they decide which 4/5 year olds are the brightest and choose them?

people think that that happens do they?

What do you think Are You Smarter Than A 10 Year Old? is all about?

 

[The Large One]

It is true but only to a point.

A faith school when oversubscribed can have it's own selection process based on church attendance for example.

A normal state school's pupils will be selected under the local authority process, in Brighton's case 1st choice, 2nd choice, 3rd choice, sibling links etc.

If a faith schools numbers are filled, then it can effectively have a say over who gets in. Child A may get in even if it's only their 3rd choice school over Child B who had it as first choice, simply because Child A's parents take them to church more often.

Where a faith school isn't oversubscribed, their own selection criteria doesn't come into it, they will have an intake just like any other state school.

The admissions issue is only really relevant to an oversubscribed faith school.

That works with any school - faith and non-faith, though obviously a non-faith school's criteria won't be on something like church attendance.

 

[nwgull]

I'm still trying to work out what is objectionable about a Catholic, CofE or other religious school where the parents will have paid more or less the same amount as tax as anyone else. Why should they have to pay any extra?


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[Bold Seagull]

That works with any school - faith and non-faith, though obviously a non-faith school's criteria won't be on something like church attendance.

No, a non faith schools admission is entirely down to the local authority. The selection to that school is based on choices, distance, and sibling links.

A faith school is completely different in that once over subscribed, it has it's own selection criteria.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I'm still trying to work out what is objectionable about a Catholic, CofE or other religious school where the parents will have paid more or less the same amount as tax as anyone else. Why should they have to pay any extra?

Why are you asking more questions when you haven't answered the posts responding to your last, almost identical point?

 

[Gazwag]

No. State schools are not allowed to have higher-achieving academic children as one of the admissions policy criteria.

Yes they are not allowed but that doesn't stop it happening, well certainly is Bexhill anyway

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I'm still trying to work out what is objectionable about a Catholic, CofE or other religious school where the parents will have paid more or less the same amount as tax as anyone else. Why should they have to pay any extra?


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Socialists on the verge of Communists.

The state is only allowed to support people/projects if they meet their criteria.

 

[Gazwag]

are people saying that primary schools pick and choose their kids? as in...they decide which 4/5 year olds are the brightest and choose them?

people think that that happens do they?

Senior school - yes they do

 

[Bold Seagull]

Socialists on the verge of Communists.

The state is only allowed to support people/projects if they meet their criteria.

We are a secular state. It's not complicated.

 

[piersa]

In your opinion

You are right, it is my opinion. It just amazes me that anyone can believe in any god with the information and science that is freely available. Perhaps as a mental crutch of comfort?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

We are a secular state. It's not complicated.

A democratic capitalist state as well.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

You are right, it is my opinion. It just amazes me that anyone can believe in any god with the information and science that is freely available. Perhaps as a mental crutch of comfort?

Show me love.

I bet you can't. Yet I'm sure you still believe in it.

 

[nwgull]

You are right, it is my opinion. It just amazes me that anyone can believe in any god with the information and science that is freely available. Perhaps as a mental crutch of comfort?

That's a whole new discussion. I think it's fair enough to allow people to have their beliefs and any moral codes that go along with that.

Ex catholic school girls are the dirtiest by the way!


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