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Should Roy Hodgson be sacked as England manager?

Should Hodgson be sacked as England manager?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 20.2%
  • No

    Votes: 158 65.0%
  • Fence

    Votes: 14 5.8%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 22 9.1%

  • Total voters
    243


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,085
Burgess Hill
I'm staggered that 65% of people think he should keep his job. He has been terrible. Ignore all the stuff about coaching in England and the lack of world class players....that's a different argument (and one that should be addressed). Roy Hodgson's job was to pick 20 people and get them playing like a team. He had two years and he failed miserably to do so. How many times in qualifications, friendlies and this world cup has he changed formations and players? How many poor choices has he made in terms of players (Jones and Milner should have started in every game) You're not bloody telling me that we don't have the talent in this country to get out of that group...player for player we are better than Costa Rica and Uruguay, but a team isn't 11 individuals....and that's how we played, like they had no idea how to work together and play as a team. That's was R.H job, the blame lies with him.

1. Who would you have as manager instead. Easy to criticise but not so easy to solve the problem.
2. How many of the English squad would get in the Italian team, or the Spanish for that matter?

Two years is no time at all. Look at Bobby Robson in the Euros in 1988 and then look what we achieved two years later!
 






Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
18,927
Born In Shoreham
1. Who would you have as manager instead. Easy to criticise but not so easy to solve the problem.
2. How many of the English squad would get in the Italian team, or the Spanish for that matter?

Two years is no time at all. Look at Bobby Robson in the Euros in 1988 and then look what we achieved two years later!
Someone who has some tactical nous at least would be a start.
 


8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
Pardew.jpg
 


rosscrudos

New member
Mar 17, 2008
81
1. Who would you have as manager instead. Easy to criticise but not so easy to solve the problem.
2. How many of the English squad would get in the Italian team, or the Spanish for that matter?

Two years is no time at all. Look at Bobby Robson in the Euros in 1988 and then look what we achieved two years later!

You're right: as much as I think that R.H has done a very poor job, there are not many English managers out there who seem to have the talent to improve things. This is very depressing!

I don't buy your second point though, just because other teams have failed doesn't excuse our failure.

This world cup has shown that a well organised team can get through against 'better' teams....Costa Rica, U.S.A, Greece etc England were not a well organised team.
 




drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,085
Burgess Hill
You're right: as much as I think that R.H has done a very poor job, there are not many English managers out there who seem to have the talent to improve things. This is very depressing!

I don't buy your second point though, just because other teams have failed doesn't excuse our failure.

This world cup has shown that a well organised team can get through against 'better' teams....Costa Rica, U.S.A, Greece etc England were not a well organised team.

Depressing as it is, you still don't give an alternative!
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,085
Burgess Hill
Someone who has some tactical nous at least would be a start.

Come up with some names then.

There are no other top English managers. Pardew, a manager who head butts the opposition. The alternative is a foreign manager, which I don't have a problem with, but many on here would moan at.
 






Commander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
12,990
London
Anyone who thinks that the problem with the England national team is the manager is deluded. Time and again we've gone out and broke the bank to get the very best managers in the world, and none of them have been able to fix it. The problems are clearly a lot deeper than who picks the team and works out the tactics!

It's just typical English- clamour for the manager to bring through some youngsters and go attacking, he does it, we go out, sack the manager. Ridiculous.
 




The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
No. Improved performances compared to 2010 World Cup. An understanding - and a decent track record - of international, and not insular in the regressive ways of the FA.

Anyone saying he is out of his depth has little appreciation of the current ongoing problems within the FA.
 






rosscrudos

New member
Mar 17, 2008
81
Depressing as it is, you still don't give an alternative!

Rodgers, Martinez, Wenger, Pulis (!) all could probably do a better job.

Anyone who thinks that the problem with the England national team is the manager is deluded

I think this is missing the point. You are right that the root problem of England's failure is not the managers, due to poor youth coaching etc it means he does not have world class players or simply players who are comfortable on the ball, which he perhaps should. However it is his job to do the best with what he has, and he should have gotten out of the group with what he had. He should have also put a team out who played in a organised and well drilled manner....he didn't. We played like strangers in every game, with the odd glimpse of something promising. This is down to the manager.
 


Puppet Master

non sequitur
Aug 14, 2012
4,055
The hysterical bedwetting on here today is priceless (but entirely predictable).

If he took Terry and Cole, we still would have failed then it would have been "Why is he sticking with the has-beens, youth is the future does he learn nothing!!" - So he does precisely that and it's STILL wrong.
 








KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
19,934
Wolsingham, County Durham
Anyone who thinks that the problem with the England national team is the manager is deluded. Time and again we've gone out and broke the bank to get the very best managers in the world, and none of them have been able to fix it. The problems are clearly a lot deeper than who picks the team and works out the tactics!

It's just typical English- clamour for the manager to bring through some youngsters and go attacking, he does it, we go out, sack the manager. Ridiculous.

Well quite. Sack the manager and all will be well - yeah right.

Besides, who else is there that can/would do it? Is there anyone out there that would take the job, who has the tactical nous/guts to gamble on changing the formation, for example, ala Sir Bobby in 1990?

How much was the team that played in the first 2 games earning collectively in a week? 1m quid? Stop building up average players as world beaters and stop paying them silly money would be a start.
 






keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,681
Dont care if this was better than South Africa, it was still awful. To many players out of posistion, defence was laughable, that post match interview was a joke. F**k off now Woy.
But he wont or get sacked because he is another pathetic FA yes man.

Who was out of position?
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,681
Out of his depth at Fulham? That was Fulham who reached the Europa Cup Final, yes? Just checking.
He wasn't given any time at Liverpool.

Also was he out of his depth when he took Switzerland to a World Cup (one that England failed to qualify for)?
 


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